I’m back on reddit for one hour and I’m actually arguing with some of the stupidest people on the planet who keep pivoting back to blaming protesters and can’t blame the DNC for even a single minute. So many people, so, so, so many people who all just want to blame the protesters and won’t say a single word about how Biden and Kamala tanked their election.
They literally keep going back and talking about the protesters, literally, and LITERALLY won’t say a word in their response in criticism of Kamala or Biden. This is utterly ridiculous; I left reddit initially because of the shocking amounts of bigotry and now I’m heading off again because these people are pigheaded children in response to people refusing to vote for genociders; they’re literally mocking that the protesters are protesting and even claiming they’re just doing it for tiktok and don’t actually care.
These people are so hateful and vile. God I wish I could teleport them into Gaza.
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There was at least one front page post about explicitly blaming the DNC. idk what shithole sub you’re wading into
15 million people who voted for Biden didn’t show up to vote for Harris. They didn’t go vote for Trump, he got fewer votes this time than last time. So 15 million people just stayed home. The question is: what would have gotten them out to vote? Everything the Dems try every time, clearly isn’t the answer… Moving right, courting the center right, gaslighting, strong arming, bullying, running on nothing more than “at least I’m not him”, etc… maybe, just maybe, it’s time to move left and embrace progressive policy… And not just bullshit half-assed lip service either… I’m talking put Bernie and the squad in charge of the DNC and start kicking out fake Dems.
Edit: I mean “fake” Dems as compared to the actual progressives we’d stack the party with
i mean, you’re not wrong. the other responses to you are educational and you should read them but you are correct. it’s just that we are beyond this phase. it’s no longer an option on the table.
notice how social democracy is being rolled back everywhere in the western world. and any attempts at blossoming in the global south are ruthlessly stomped out.
there’s no more compromise or bones to throw to the working class.
So what then?
to start, the left will have to build up outside of mainstream politics. there’s already tiny seeds everywhere.
things will get worse. we will be there to help where we can
Democrats serve donors, not voters. They would only go left if the alternative would be being shot by People’s Tribunal.
I’d be okay with that
‘fake’ dems are just real democrats
this is the democrats, basically the same as republicans and bought out by most of the same interests
Oh, sorry, I meant “fake” compared to the actual progressives we’d stack the party with. I doubt most current Dems would make the cut… But some might fall in line
Saw someone blame the concept of “latinx”.
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Inb4 the Democratic Party issues a formal apology for Obgerfell.
The whole point of modern liberal democracy, from the liberal perspective, is that it’s like a market: the entrepreneur/party identifies (or creates!) a demand for a solution/product/policy package, then brings it to market/nominates a candidate and launches a marketing campaign. If you profit/win the election, you did a good job; otherwise, you failed. You are bankrupt. You should leave the market.
If your proposal does not represent the views of the voters, if you lose the popular vote, by definition, you did a shit job.Not only they don’t know jack shit about Marxism, they don’t even understand their own theory.
Leave reddit and never return, I promise your life will noticeably improve. No point in engaging on a CIA-controlled astroturfed to shit platform
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The danger is on a particular website… it increases towards the default subs… the center of danger is here… of a particular ideology and mode of production.
The danger is still present, in your time, as it was in ours.
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I can’t even argue on reddit anymore they temp banned me for saying “watch a zionist short circuit when you show them an anti zionist jew” and they said it was hate speech L O L
Cussing out zionists on mainstream social media is so frustrating because if you’re even half as edgy as those evil creeps, your comment gets taken down and / or you’re banned.
People get away with posting literally unreconstructed antisemitic memes day in and day out but if you criticize Israel for the crimes of genocide and apartheid you get the ban hammer.
they can call palestinians animals, call children terrorists, say they deserve every manner of horrific brutality, demand they vacate land, claim that cleansing them is god’s decree, the list just goes on
i have never heard even the most radical muslim speak of anyone this way not even israelis
Having good experiences on the actual left wing subs - like r/thedeprogram
I spent the entire day arguing with Blue MAGA Dumbfucks in r/politics and honestly didn’t have this much fun on reddit since the days of MTC.
Not only do you have liberals insisting kamala ran a perfect campaign, the genz subreddit is fucking cooked.
Like full blown celebrating and saying anybody who thinks anything bad will happen under Trump is delusional.
It’s one thing to be delusional enough to say kamala would have been way better than Trump but to say that nothing bad will happen with a trifecta of republican control is wild.
Are spaces for gen z just that astroturfed or is it really a bunch of little nazi shitstains running around. The exit pill data last night suggest the latter that gen z rejected liberals messaging but they are moving far right and fast as a result.
Like the take isn’t “kamala wouldn’t have been any better for lgbtq people or gaza” it’s more like “nothing bad is going to happen to women or trans people you all just live in a bubble because you think trumps bad”
Are spaces for gen z just that astroturfed or is it really a bunch of little nazi shitstains running around. The exit pill data last night suggest the latter that gen z rejected liberals messaging but they are moving far right and fast as a result.
Idk why millennials thought Gen Z was great or anything. Ever since they’ve been on the internet they’ve been inundated with fascist propaganda.
So were millenials but then we turned 16 and realized it was horseshit.
“We’ll put a boot in your ass, it’s the American way” was the lyrics to the number one song in the country and a bunch of pre teens were asking what Afghanistan had to do with 9/11.
I don’t think it’s the same at all.
The gen z subreddit gets brigaded by people who aren’t even gen z all the time. Not the best view of how that generation thinks.
Yeah, that’s been the vibe for such a long time. There was a post about how you need to already have saved 1 year worth of salary for retirement by the age of 30. Some people were calling out how that’s unrealistic for a lot of people now, but there was way more people talking about how that’s entirely doable.
They were typically ~30s or older and had children already. They were also making over 100k and had jobs in tech and engineering. The youngest was like 28-29 that had a high paying 6 figure job. Which is far from the norm.
But yeah, lots of “that’s totally realistic!”, “the article is completely fine, genz is just lazy”, “if you haven’t begun saving for retirement in your early 20s it’s your fault and you’re a failure.”
There’s brigrading trying to rip influence and then there’s every single comment being about how trump isn’t bad and everybody overreacting and saying he’s racist is why they won.
Like the top twenty comments are all gloating that watching liberals melt down makes their vote for trump even more worth it.
Even then I’d say that’s more about the demographic of people who use Reddit more than Zoomers as a whole.
I don’t know why anybody thought Gen Z was going to be this generation of hardline communists or something, a plurality are little Nazi shitstains and most of the rest are at “Joe Biden dropped out???” levels of political literacy
Are spaces for gen z just that astroturfed or is it really a bunch of little nazi shitstains running around. The exit pill data last night suggest the latter that gen z rejected liberals messaging but they are moving far right and fast as a result.
I’ve heard about Andrew Tate and how Trans people are icky far more than any other political ideas from highschoolers in the last two years. Granted, its only the guys and I’m in Texas (but one of the few counties that was blue despite Kamala’s terrible performance).
Tbh I wouldnt exactly trust reddit to show an actual sample size of what any particular group thinks in general because theyre all fringe weirdos, but especially not gen z. Your average gen z person is on twitter or tiktok, not reddit.
The exit pill data
i cant even bring myself to engage in obscure hobby reddit anymore, even in completely unrelated spaces the fuckin
energy permeates the area like background radiationyeah I tapped out during… idk 2022? and haven’t looked back. more obscure forums and chatrooms I still stick around in, and I’ll read reddit threads when they show up in google searches, but I don’t have an account and won’t engage at all
for sure, there’s still tons of good info you can find on reddit, but in terms of actually engaging with peeps on there? nah lmao
I wish I could teleport them into Gaza. why would you exacerbate the suffering of the palestinians left there smh
Don’t make me tap the sign.
The sign:
Though there are MILLIONS of shitlibs out there, this shit is definitely being turfed. The idea that heads must roll among the Democratic party elite is an incredibly dangerous thing. It is an idea which must be strangled in the crib. This was the whole purpose of Russiagate 8 years ago. To absolve the party leadership of their world-historic negligence. Nobody lost their jobs.
