Hello users of Hexbear, we wanted to inform you that we are going to be locking the_dunk_tank and dredge_tank communities. We have created two new communities /c/gossip and /c/counterpropaganda to serve a similar but clearly distinct purpose than the dunk/dredge tanks.

Not only is the dunk tank a term that has racist origins, but also many posts there were almost no effort and often times requiring later edits to show how they weren’t reactionary, not useful with regard to developing rhetoric and furthering dialectical analysis of that which we dunk upon.

To that end, we wish posts of reactionaries to be placed in !counterpropaganda@hexbear.net along with an accompanying explanation (as simple or complex as desired) with the intent of countering the reactionary propaganda in the post body, as of now comments are not subject to the same rhetorical rigor rule.

For the posts that are not "low-hanging fruit’ of notable people we ask that you use !gossip@hexbear.net .

These changes are mainly part of a continued effort to remove the racist and misogynistic elements from our community and grow.

Any moderators of the dunk tank or dredge tank that want to be a mod in the new communities let me know.

Any users with questions or comments please use this post, this change was made at the behest of the entire Hexbear mod and admin team. We will be looking for more moderators in an organized volunteer drive shortly, if you wish to submit an application you may send it to me via hexbear or matrix direct messages.

Use this post as a place for discussion to these changes. We will keep things as they are for 2 weeks and then reflect on the feedback, including this post: https://hexbear.net/post/3858346

As a personal addendum I am sorry if the closing of the tanks these changes removes a beloved space on the site and if you want to suggest a community to replace them you may do so at !commrequest@hexbear.net or submit a mod application to take a more active role in shaping the site.

Sitewide or community changes come from proposals put forth from the mod team, discussed, and voted on by the mod team.

Any users wanting to suggest a community to replace the tanks, may do so at !commrequest@hexbear.net current discussion is here https://hexbear.net/post/3858346 or submit a mod application to take a more active role in shaping the site.

You may also consider using !shitreactionariessay@lemmygrad.ml as a substitute for dunk/dredge tank posts as well

The mod statement can be found here: https://hexbear.net/comment/5613033

Application

What is your Hexbear username? Do you have any preferred pronouns? What are your thoughts on capitalism? What are your thoughts on imperialism? What are your thoughts on trans rights? What are your thoughts on racial justice? What do think about current and previous protests around the world? What are your thoughts on Veganism and Animal Liberation? Do you have any experience with other leftist online communities? What did those experiences teach you? What is your approach to moderation, and how do you work with teams? How do you deal with online drama and people who try to start things for the sake of it? What current comms would you be interested in moderating? Do you have any ideas for community engagement? What is your general time availability? (Time zone, amounts, common browsing times, etc)

  • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    56·
    11 days ago

    She hasn’t addressed any actual point once just reinforced her view as a problem and it should change but it’s also ok for her to be wildly toxic lol I’m not taking this as a good faith situation at this point tbh

    • REgon [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      30·
      11 days ago

      I already went thru a whole discussion with her about this, so it’s just extra shitty of her to redo it from the get-go lol

      In this very thread even. But yeah, dunk_tank people are bad and toxic or whatever. This is the type of person who is just great for site culture lol

          • TheLepidopterists [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            32·
            11 days ago

            God damn the misgendering while calling you a toxic debatebro is wild; if that’s actually a Hexbear’s alt, mod or not they ought to catch a permaban for that.

              • booty [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                34·
                10 days ago

                Just for the record:

                Catradora_Stalinism: Carnist/vehemently anti-vegan mod of traa, extremely online and always getting into big slapfights with other users, extremely quick to throw out insults, writes exactly in this style. banned a while back for not shutting up about anti-vegan bullshit, made many alt accounts to troll for a couple days after the ban.

                HelltakerHomosexual: Account made shortly after the spam alts stopped, carnist/vehemently anti-vegan mod of traa, extremely online and always getting into slapfights with other users, extremely quick to throw out insults, writes in exactly this style, preferred method of openly harassing people is making a bunch of alt accounts and trolling

                • REgon [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  32·
                  10 days ago

                  Catradora_Stalinism

                  The user who made death threats, but didn’t get banned because she was friends with a bunch of mods? That user? You’re telling me that loser didn’t just go away? surprised-pika

                  • Wisp [fae/faer, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
                    19·
                    10 days ago

                    Probably a better place than this to make the comment but w/e. I don’t really care to much about the dunk/dredge tank shit but do think the mod/admin response has been pretty silly. But I’ve seen people brush off that this site can be cliquey as ridiculous when it’s not that uncommon. It is noticeable that certain users get much more leniency for being inflammatory than others

                  • REgon [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                    27·
                    10 days ago

                    Nice ableism dear non-toxic friend.

                    Genuinely looking at your reaction and the effort you go thru in order to not engage with text, but just harass people you are mad at for no good reason: You should seek help from a mental health professional.

                  • booty [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                    27·
                    10 days ago

                    thanks for the continued ableism. if your main doesn’t get permabanned for this the admins are a fuckin joke

            • REgon [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
              27·
              11 days ago

              It’s toxic don’t you see. Creates a chauvinistic atmosphere, as opposed to what we do, which is create an open and welcoming one.

              Honestly all the people who talk about the chauvinism on here are the most toxic losers around. The fact there’s not as many cis women as they’d like on here has a whole lot more to do with them, than they’d like to accept.

          • tls123 [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
            18·
            10 days ago

            don’t know who that is but banned. can’t verify they’re not just someone wandering in to stir the pot anyways given account was made specifically for this thread, besides being weirdly confrontational and dismissive

    • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      12·
      10 days ago

      This appears to be a pattern with a couple of the mods who seem most aggressively for this decision and most against actually discussing it.

      I just shrugged and moved on when it was clear I wasn’t going to get a reasonable reply, but you’re right that many of these mod replies aren’t even close to being in good faith.

      At this point it really feels like a couple of mods here are just flinging shit because the majority don’t seem to agree with them and are annoyed at the disingenuous reasons given for this whole fuck up. It’s pretty embarrassing to be honest.