Being a rural hick doesn’t make you southern. It’s only been the last 20-30 years that Midwest small towns have been trying to preteend that they are southern rednecks.
Not only am I 47, I’m 47 and married to someone who’s family goes back to Indiana from the mid-1800s, mostly the Owen County area.
It’s the South. It is. You go to Kentucky or Tennessee, it’s basically the same culture except they get to call themselves Southern. Even most of the traditional food is much more southern. Grits, okra, cornbread, you name it.
If you went to Tennessee and thought it was the same culture as Southern Indiana you didn’t do anything but drive though and stop for food a couple times.
Florida is East Coast/Caribbean except for the panhandle. Louisiana is in many ways the most southern state. Of course it’s not 1:1 but Western Tennessee does have a culture distinct from Western Kentucky. There’s a very distinct historical reason for that.
Okay, then if there is not one monolithic Southern culture, I’m not sure what your point is.
Amongst multiple other Southern cities, I’ve been to Knoxville. I’ve been to New Orleans. I’ve been to Birmingham, I’ve been to Atlanta and I’ve been to Jacksonville. If you think any of those cities are remotely the same culturally, you were the one who drove through without stopping. And if any of those cities fail your “The South” purity test, well I doubt most of the people there would agree.
Incidentally, calling Jacksonville either “East Coast” or “Caribbean” is fucking hilarious.
I never said NO, Birmingham, or Atlanta weren’t Southern. Jacksonville is absolutely East Coast. Yes the area to it’s west is Southern. But the coastal cities have a shared culture right up through Baltimore. After which it’s pretty much North East culture. Sometimes it’s referred to as South East but that belies the culture between the coastal cities and the Appalachians.
I think you need to draw a map of what you consider to be the South, because it doesn’t agree with literally any definition I have ever heard or any map I have ever seen.
I have never, ever heard anyone say Florida, which was literally in the Confederacy is not part of the South.
And now you’re actually trying to claim that parts of Georgia aren’t in the south. You are sounding nuts. I hope you realize that.
Seriously. One map. I can find plenty that say you’re 100% wrong.
I admit I can find maps that don’t include Kentucky. I have yet to see one that doesn’t include the parts of the Appalachians that are in Georgia.
Being a rural hick doesn’t make you southern. It’s only been the last 20-30 years that Midwest small towns have been trying to preteend that they are southern rednecks.
I’m 47. No it hasn’t.
Not only am I 47, I’m 47 and married to someone who’s family goes back to Indiana from the mid-1800s, mostly the Owen County area.
It’s the South. It is. You go to Kentucky or Tennessee, it’s basically the same culture except they get to call themselves Southern. Even most of the traditional food is much more southern. Grits, okra, cornbread, you name it.
If you went to Tennessee and thought it was the same culture as Southern Indiana you didn’t do anything but drive though and stop for food a couple times.
If you went to Tennesse and you thought it was the same culture as Florida or Louisiana, that’s also true. What’s your point?
Florida is East Coast/Caribbean except for the panhandle. Louisiana is in many ways the most southern state. Of course it’s not 1:1 but Western Tennessee does have a culture distinct from Western Kentucky. There’s a very distinct historical reason for that.
Okay, then if there is not one monolithic Southern culture, I’m not sure what your point is.
Amongst multiple other Southern cities, I’ve been to Knoxville. I’ve been to New Orleans. I’ve been to Birmingham, I’ve been to Atlanta and I’ve been to Jacksonville. If you think any of those cities are remotely the same culturally, you were the one who drove through without stopping. And if any of those cities fail your “The South” purity test, well I doubt most of the people there would agree.
Incidentally, calling Jacksonville either “East Coast” or “Caribbean” is fucking hilarious.
I never said NO, Birmingham, or Atlanta weren’t Southern. Jacksonville is absolutely East Coast. Yes the area to it’s west is Southern. But the coastal cities have a shared culture right up through Baltimore. After which it’s pretty much North East culture. Sometimes it’s referred to as South East but that belies the culture between the coastal cities and the Appalachians.
I think you need to draw a map of what you consider to be the South, because it doesn’t agree with literally any definition I have ever heard or any map I have ever seen.
I have never, ever heard anyone say Florida, which was literally in the Confederacy is not part of the South.
And now you’re actually trying to claim that parts of Georgia aren’t in the south. You are sounding nuts. I hope you realize that.
Seriously. One map. I can find plenty that say you’re 100% wrong.
I admit I can find maps that don’t include Kentucky. I have yet to see one that doesn’t include the parts of the Appalachians that are in Georgia.
Even the U.S. government doesn’t agree with you.
You’re the one that wanted to drill down. I was open about the general cultural regions.