• Maalus@lemmy.world
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      10 hours ago

      Tesla windows are laminated so you are shit out of luck trying to break them that way.

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        7 hours ago

        Many modern car side windows are laminated. This is not a Tesla thing

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          7 hours ago

          Which is whataboutism and not what we were talking about. You cannot get out using a window breaker in a tesla, doesn’t matter that other manufacturers are idiots too.

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            There’s no whataboutism to saying it’s not entirely their choice. It’s unclear to me whether it’s a new regulatory requirement or a new requirement where that is the likely choice. But either way it’s an industry issue, not a specific manufacturer issue

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              42 minutes ago

              It’s neither. Laminated glass is used for “luxury” because it makes the inside quieter at the cost of you burning to death because you couldn’t break the side window anymore.

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    15 hours ago

    … with the Model Y in particular, not all vehicles come with manual releases for the rear doors, as Tesla warns in the car’s manual. It’s unclear if the Model Y involved in the crash was equipped with the emergency feature.

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      Most likely with an impact that severe, the passengers were either killed or incapacitated on impact, especially giving the fact none of the others were noticed trying to escape when the bystander broke out a window.

      The front doors do have easily accessible manual releases on all of the models.

      That being said, for the ones ‘equipped’ with the emergency feature for the rear, it is a manual release cable buried under the speaker grill, which is something very few passengers would know about in the first place, much less have the presence of mind or physical capability to remove the speaker grill and find/pull the cable.

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          7 hours ago

          Did you read your manual? There are variations and it’s important for you to know your car.

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    How does this shit pass safety tests? Did they pay off the testing authorities?

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      I just don’t get why Tesla feels the need to be different all the time. It shouldn’t require the use of electronics to open a door for emergencies. It shouldn’t have a learning curve to have to use turn signal buttons instead of a toggle stick. All these things add up to make it less intuitive and safe

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    15 hours ago

    Because this keeps coming up:

    Electronic door latches are not a Tesla invention. They are featured in many vehicles. They’re considered a luxury item and presumably some people like them over a mechanical latch.

    All Teslas have a mechanical override. In the 3 and Y it’s very obvious in the front seat (so obvious that some of my passengers instinctively use it over the electronic latch. Doing so repeatedly can damage the weather stripping). The back seat has no override (that I know of).

    It’s less obvious (but still present) in the S and X.

    Take from that what you will, but this is only a story because it’s Tesla.

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      Just curious - are you able to point me to any articles of people dying in non-Tesla car fires due to being trapped because of electric door handles failing?
      I tried searching, but was only able to find an article of a man dying of heat exhaustion in a Corvette in 2015.

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        So my point is that the story is only newsworthy because it’s Tesla. I think you’re arguing that it doesn’t happen in other cars because you can’t find news about it. I think we’re arguing the same point. It could be happening in other cars, but it isn’t newsworthy.

        30,000 people die in America every year because of cars, but we don’t see 30,000 news articles about it.

        What would make a Tesla more dangerous than say a 2008 Corvette that has the manual release conveniently placed on the floor?

        Here’s a photo from a forum where someone suggests a way to cover the label because they don’t like the look.

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        Someone else in this thread claimed they were seriously injured so couldn’t get out on their own anyway. The specific claim was that after bystanders broke a window, no one tried to get out

        Yes, I guarantee there have been many accidents with the occupants too injured to exit on their own, where the car has burned

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      These anti-safety features are getting more common and annoying. My personal peeves are turn indicator lights that are red instead of orange and then on top of that are the animated ones. Cute, but now I have extra processing to do, often at night, in the train, to figure out whether they’re braking or turning. Of course this is a non-issue on BMWs.

      Or headlights that turn off when the turn indicator comes on. Or strobing bicycle headlights that blind drivers for a split second before making the cyclist invisible in the absence of light the next moment.

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      I think the problem is that it’s not as obvious in the backseat as a non-Tesla vehicle.