Everything I said is about pedos that insist on being called MAPs. Calling them pedos doesn’t inherently frame them as wicked people. A pedo can only get help if they first recognize they’re a pedo.
They definitely need therapy for their mental illness. The problem is when they claim it’s a sexuality, neurodivergence or a disability, to try to normalize the condition/behavior or feel like a victim. Kids are victims, pedos are mentally ill.
Conflating mental illness with sexuality is wrong. Pedophilia is not a sexuality. Some pedos may be “morally sound” if they are filled with disgust at their thoughts, never act on them and instead make every effort to change. Sexuality is something you can’t change and isn’t inherently abusive.
For example, beastiality is abusive. It’s a mental illness that can be helped through therapy. Sexualities don’t need to be helped, and attempting to “fix” someone’s sexuality in therapy would be abuse.
Well those are your definitions, and of course under them I am wrong and you are right. But I don’t think they are correct.
Would you be able to find a definition of “sexuality” or “sexual orientation” that says it’s not inherently abusive? I’ll wait but I don’t think you will.
You can’t control who you are attracted to, and to be fair I think saying otherwise would be rather reactionary.
If you are attracted to people or things who can consent to your intimacy - or even to objects - that’s great. If you are attracted to kids or animals it’s not great at all. But they are all sexual orientations, and you don’t get to decide through legality which ones are not.
I don’t disagree with you on the disgust for pedo behaviour and the attempts of tbe “MAPs” to make it acceptable. I disagree with the stigma on those who have that attraction BECAUSE of the attraction itself rather than their actions.
“To be fair” to “morally sound” pedos?
Everything I said is about pedos that insist on being called MAPs. Calling them pedos doesn’t inherently frame them as wicked people. A pedo can only get help if they first recognize they’re a pedo.
They definitely need therapy for their mental illness. The problem is when they claim it’s a sexuality, neurodivergence or a disability, to try to normalize the condition/behavior or feel like a victim. Kids are victims, pedos are mentally ill.
Conflating mental illness with sexuality is wrong. Pedophilia is not a sexuality. Some pedos may be “morally sound” if they are filled with disgust at their thoughts, never act on them and instead make every effort to change. Sexuality is something you can’t change and isn’t inherently abusive.
For example, beastiality is abusive. It’s a mental illness that can be helped through therapy. Sexualities don’t need to be helped, and attempting to “fix” someone’s sexuality in therapy would be abuse.
Well those are your definitions, and of course under them I am wrong and you are right. But I don’t think they are correct.
Would you be able to find a definition of “sexuality” or “sexual orientation” that says it’s not inherently abusive? I’ll wait but I don’t think you will.
You can’t control who you are attracted to, and to be fair I think saying otherwise would be rather reactionary.
If you are attracted to people or things who can consent to your intimacy - or even to objects - that’s great. If you are attracted to kids or animals it’s not great at all. But they are all sexual orientations, and you don’t get to decide through legality which ones are not.
I don’t disagree with you on the disgust for pedo behaviour and the attempts of tbe “MAPs” to make it acceptable. I disagree with the stigma on those who have that attraction BECAUSE of the attraction itself rather than their actions.