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    The sphere isn’t just men, it’s maga.

    It’s not just the men/man/male influencers/manosphere, it’s the magasphere.

    The magasphere has allowed people to feel more comfortable saying trash in public.

    Edit: really gotta spell it out for the masses.

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        I don’t really think I have expectations for them. I imagine the worst thing possible, and they always trump it.

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          It’s not really semantics. The manosphere is a specific group of influencers, not men in general. It only seems like semantics if you don’t know what the manosphere actually is.

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        And what do you think that means?

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          A specific ring of misogynistic male influencers. Not men in general. If you generally struggle with nuance, maybe this example will help: all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares. Same with the manosphere. All are men, but not all men are part of it.

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            Let me rephrase it so you can better understand simple sentences.

            It’s not just the men/man/male influencers/manosphere, it’s the magasphere.

            I forget how people online need to have everything spelled out for them.

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              What are you talking about? The manosphere is a distinctly separate collection of people composed of influencers and their followers who obsess over manliness and macho stereotypes.

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                These are the same people. Good job.

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    The internet in general has a misogyny problem, and it’s not just right-wing spaces. Reddit is famous for being left-wing, but it’s hard to get to the second page of r/all without seeing a video where a man punches a woman. That shit is celebrated, and that content comes from multiple subs not known to be chud focused.

    Back in 2015-16, I personally saw skeptic spaces on Youtube and Reddit abandon leftest values in favor of Gamergate-misogyny. You can trace the “woke” criticism of online game discourse straight through to pioneering bigots like “littlefoot” and the “amazing” atheist in their crusade to save anime titties from Anita Sarkeesian.

    And while the incel and ‘men’s lib’ movements are explicitly politically right, they do adopt the language and critical framework of academic feminism. They make some valid observations about men’s gender rolls in society, too bad the prescription is never to improve conditions for men, rather to walk back the advancements of women.

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      It’s like the fact that some prominent atheists were involved at the beginning of gamergate kind of got memory-holed in the upswing of right-wing Christian theocracy.

      Personally it’s been wild to witness the atheist-to-Christian pipeline through gamergate and the “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd.

      What’s even wilder is that Sam Harris somehow ended up somewhat less shitty than he initially appeared, because I fully expected a hard-right turn from him at some point.

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        I listen to his podcast (free version that gets cut off at some point midway through discussion), and I’m way behind on episodes, but what role did he have in gamergate?

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    Yeah that’ll definitely get you laid, they better just start fucking each other because they’re definitely not getting close to any woman in the next 4 years.

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    No one is threatening anyone. Democrats are just trying to reassemble their base after losing the latest election.