• blazeknave@lemmy.world
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      7 days ago

      Everyone thinks any change is good change. I say this with my straight white male privilege (as I pass as)… do you like your retail delivery? Your job assuming you’re not breaking bricks? Your creature comfort? Your family’s safety, old and young. Ask people in Ukraine how fun civil unrest and war are in a modern Western community just like yours. I wanted that when I was 15. Now I have empathy that the countrymen and women for whom I want justice, are not cannon fodder for overly academic jerk off fantasies about socialist revolution.

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          7 days ago

          Substitute the women in Iran in the '70s if you want.

          The point remains the same. Living through your society falling apart is not nearly as fun as the post-apocalyptic fiction would lead you to believe.

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          My point was the way of life for someone used to 2020s creature comfort in Western liberal metropolises. Nothing to do with the polisci behind why the experience is happening. And a civil war would be even worse which I thought was implicit but apologies I’d it wasnt

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      Yeah, generally it leads to societal and economic collapse. Things sometimes improve, but it sometimes takes decades, and usually a shitload of people die as collateral damage via starvation, extrajudicial killings, etc. normal people, not these solid gold assholes.

      We one time had an exchange student whose father lived through one such event and nearly starved to death in the fallout after it had run it’s course. He said his father’s strongest memories were that he was so hungry, for years. :/

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      8 days ago

      Generally speaking, normalizing extrajudicial killing of people that aren’t liked tends to trend in a bad direction.