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For weeks following Joe Biden’s disastrous performance, his campaign publicly maintained the illusion that he was still well-positioned to defeat Donald Trump. Privately, they knew otherwise. As Pod Save America co-host Jon Favreau revealed days after the election:

After the debate, the Biden people told us that the polls were fine, and Biden was still the strongest candidate. They were privately telling reporters, at the time, that Kamala Harris couldn’t win. […] Then we find out, when the Biden campaign becomes the Harris campaign, that the Biden campaign’s own internal polling, at the time when they were telling us he was the strongest candidate, showed that Donald Trump was going to win 400 electoral votes.

The implications of this are staggering, and it should be treated as a massive scandal.

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    Turns out when economy bad stupid people vote out the incumbent.

    Also white and Latino men have masculinity issues that prevent them from voting for women.

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      Claudia Sheinbaum the president of Mexico is a woman…

      pretty sure latino men voted for her, 9 out of 10 Mexicans voted for a woman in that election as her best opponent was also a woman.

      she had more votes than any previous president!

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            If you look at the voter statistics mainly white and Latino men stayed at home for Kamala after voting for Joe Biden.

            Sorry reality is hard for you to process.

            If you have a better theory why specifically these groups of men sat out besides the sexism we know they have problems with then im all ears.

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              https://english.elpais.com/usa/elections/2024-11-08/false-promises-and-political-neglect-why-latinos-did-not-vote-for-kamala-harris.html

              For Latinos — as for the rest of the country — the high cost of living, housing and food was the factor that most influenced their vote.

              The disenchantment among Hispanics has grown as they’ve felt the Democrats have overlooked them outside of election seasons and failed to address the issues that matter most to them. Although Harris’ team launched an extensive, multimillion-dollar strategy to engage Latinos — a group of over 36 million eligible voters — through Spanish-language ads and even a dedicated WhatsApp group, it was of little use. The damage was done, and Trump knew how to capitalize on that discontent.

              it isn’t hard to find if you look. But go on with your racist bullshit it helps folks know who to block

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                Thanks.

                This bit sounds infuriating, even just reading it:

                Spanish-language ads and even a dedicated WhatsApp group, it was of little use

                So you will never be able to buy a house, you are starting to skip lunch to save money, the government is boasting about how great everything is, and they wouldn’t change anything at all, everything is fucking great, at least the Cheneys said so, the opposition wants to deport you to some country you probably only heard about in high school geography.

                And in the campaign, in exchange for your vote, you get a… drumroll… dedicated WhatsApp group! And if that doesn’t motivate you to go vote, you’re sexist and racist, and you are the reason Harris lost.

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                  It’s just a constant shooting in the foot for Harris and I was just going “Jesus Christ, they can’t blame third party voters this time, will they blame Progressives or BIPOC if we lose?”

                  Turns out, both.

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                the high cost of living, housing and food was the factor that most influenced their vote.

                So the high cost of living caused them to vote for Trump’s inflationary National Sales Tax and inflationary gigantic tax cuts for billionaires?

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                  They didn’t vote for Trump, they didn’t vote for Harris. Trump didn’t gain the voters, Harris lost millions of voters.

                  Democrats weren’t going to vote for the Candidate who had no primary, was decided upon race/sexist promotion, and was unable to show definitive reasons why she would be ifferent than Biden.

                  Biden didn’t win the last primary because of his personal votes, he won because all of the other candidates gave him their Primary votes after Super Tuesday to stop Bernie from being the nominee again.

                  The DNC was not supported this time because the Democrat voters were against the coronation of Kamala, but did vote down-ballot the Democrats. Voting wasn’t a zero-sum choice, many people like me, didn’t vote for a president because the DNC was being fascist about the candidate.

                  The DNC is no longer the party of the worker, it’s the party of the bosses and bankers, with the Hollywood shills paid to support their Candidate. The people aren’t owed their votes, the same way companies aren’t owed a purchase when they make a product that customers don’t want. We can’t have a marketplace of ideas if the DNC blocks all other ideas.

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              Sorry that reality is hard for you to process, but Trump got elected because Harris ran a dogshit campaign pandering to nonexistent Republicans who actually somehow like Biden. That’s it, that’s all.

              Just because she’s a woman, you are not sexist for not voting for her. I also wouldn’t vote for Nancy Reagan or Eva Braun. Or Thatcher for that matter.

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                You’re allowed to go look at which groups voted differently,

                It shouldn’t be this much of a struggle for you to engage with reality.

                Maybe you need to self reflect on why that is

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                  So you’re saying just because men voted differently, that means they voted differently because she’s a woman.

                  To be honest, that insinuation is actually sexist.

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                    I’m a white male who voted for Harris in California.

                    I know lots of white men and Latino men and Black men who voted for Harris in my state. The other choice was “Deport first, then kill the rest.”

                    It’s weirdly sexist/bigoted from liberals to say men instantly hate a woman who runs.

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      Ah yes, Latino men prefer super macho men like the socialist feminists Claudia Sheinbaum and Dilma Rousseff.

      Definitely not that Kamala was an unconvincing candidate who simply got a boost from women due to the abortion issue, relative to men.

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        It’s almost as if Latin American voters are a completely different demographic than people who live and vote in South America.

        Who would’ve thought.

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          Yeah, completely different. They don’t share anything, especially not the thing we’re discussing, culture.

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            You think Latin American (talking about USA) culture is the same as South American culture?

            Lol buddy…

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              That’s what I said. When I implied, using sarcasm, that they’re not completely dissimilar, what I really meant was that US Latino culture is monolithic and is 1:1 identical to South America, and only South America, excluding central America and Mexico where a majority of US Latinos are from. You are correct.

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        If you look at the voter statistics mainly white and Latino men stayed at home for Kamala after voting for Joe Biden.

        Sorry reality is hard for you to process.

        If you have a better theory why specifically these groups of men sat out besides the sexism we know they have problems with then im all ears.

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          Yes, they sat home because Biden went from 53% approval at the time they voted for him to 37% approval at the time of his dropping out, Kamala Harris did not differentiate herself from him much and many more white and Latino women may have also stayed home were it not for the repeal of Roe v. Wade. Black men also shifted towards Trump.

          Why don’t you explain why it that Latino men voted 62% for Hillary and only 55% for Kamala?

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              A smarmy way to avoid explaining the absurd “sexism” angle. Keep making excuses for a political party hemorrhaging support by its own inability to change.