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    2 days ago

    you guys are this upset about what Biden did. You do realize that the person coming into office after him literally sold pardons or money. To some of the worst people you’ll ever know. Oh? Not a peep?

    Eldritch, always here with the nonsense distraction attempt for Biden and/or genocide and low standards for dem leaders. “Sure I killed 3 kids your honor, but what about that other guy? He killed 4! so why am I even here in court?”

    So eldritch, once again, we dont judge ourselves as doing fine if we stay slightly above the worst level of what some other side is doing. Thats not how any of this works. Its not how life works. Your point is nonsensical. It amounts to a self defense of meaningless and braindead centrism, doesnt it.

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      I literally said it’s not a defense of him. Just pointed out that it’s odd that so many are so seemingly upset. At what specifically a lame duck outgoing president did. By mass pardoning a group of people. Which included someone it shouldn’t have. Likely not by Biden’s inclusion. And you felt so personally called out by it. That you did nothing but project and put words I never said into my mouth. Funny that. Some advice for the future comrade. You’ll have much more fruitful discussions if you engage with what people actually say. Instead of trying to make up things to get offended at. That’s ultimately my point and you proved it. Thank you very much friend.

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        You’re like this in all of your many many comments.
        You backpedal with a “I just X”. or trying to pretend everyone misunderstood what you obviously said.

        You ALWAYS run interference for Biden and genocide with the same tired “But Trump is worse” and “Biden probably didnt do X on purpose” drivel. Its always the main point of your comment: “what about Trump.”

        You throw in a tired ad-hom, like this time calling me “comrade”. or sometimes its “kiddo” or “uninformed” or “uneducated”.

        And you clutch your pearls and claim its personal.

        *le sigh.

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          There a significant difference between having a perspective on the bigger picture versus “defending” one aspect of it. The person you’re attacking stated they weren’t defending Biden because it’s obviously wrong, but they were pointing out that in the larger scheme of things it’s comparatively SOP or even small peanuts compared to other similar wrongs committed by other people in the same position.

          I’m quite disgusted with the Biden administration’s handling of Netanyahu myself, but that doesn’t mean the answer is to replace it with someone with an even worse human rights track record.

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            20 hours ago

            Why do you bring up replacement in this conversation? pushing for better leadership within the party doesnt equate to boosting Trump. We’re supposed to have our own standards, not only exist as some foil to the far right. Thats exactly how we all lost in the last election.

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                Lots of people prefer to speak of Biden only in the context of comparing him to trump. strange, eh. He cant stand on his own two feet, he needs that Trump comparison, or who is he? Shall we look at his actions without that crutch of comparing him to Trump? no?

                So sure, we can talk about both here, because otherwise the centrists would have nothing at all to say.

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                  They compare them because they are the most recent presidents. I’ve also seen Biden compared to Obama and DUHbya, but you don’t see those because that’s not what you’re looking for to propagate your preferred narrowly-focused narrative.

                  Grow up, get some perspective, and get over your high-n-mighty self.

                  I’m done with you. Goodnight.

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                    They compare them because they are the most recent presidents.

                    nonsense. You compare them because centrists tried running as slightly better than the far right, and calling that good. Well its not good, and when you keep brining it up it looks like you want to keep going along with the same mistakes that brought us to this epic loss. We’re not going to get out of this by making the same exact play with the same exact lack of ideology as always.

                    Grow up, get some perspective, and get over your high-n-mighty self. I’m done with you. Goodnight.

                    And you tell me to grow up? You replied to me, right? Take some responsibilities for your own actions, centrist. And if not operating in a philosophical world where everything is relative to fascism counts as “high and mighty” to you, then thats not great.