Think of it like extremist religious communities. Sure, gypsies support each other, but they’re also generationally perpetuating their way of living. For example even if they get a chance to attend schools they often get pulled out by their parents to get married and/or start working before they finish primary education. They live in tightly knit communities, speak their own language that’s completely separate from the local one, and live in a drastically different culture.
In other words, your friends and relatives will help you to raise your five children, but your parents are the reason you started having them at fourteen and why you can barely speak the language of the country you’re living in.
It’s pretty fucked up all around, especially when you consider the fact that they had to call themselves “human” in their own language (rom), and popularise phrases like “gypsies also have souls”.
Sure, [slur] support each other, but they’re also generationally perpetuating their way of living
Wow what do you think culture is? You do know that eradicating culture is a form of genocide? Roma people keeping their culture is a good thing, not a bad thing. Being sedentary is not superior to being nomadic, and there’s a huge bias against the Roma and other traditionally nomadic peoples from people with sedentary-supremacist mindsets.
Letting your children get educated, become literate, and have a chance to escape poverty is not genocide. If you can imagine shit like removing 13-14 year old girls from school to get married and bear children a nice cultural tradition, then you’ve got some serious issues. I’ve seen that happen to my peers, and it’s not good for anyone.
In most Balkan countries Romani haven’t been nomadic since around the 19th century. Now they’re either just regular people or live in absolute poverty and have to fight to survive. In both cases they’re sedentary, the only difference is whether they’re living in a house made of bricks or out of cardboard.
At least over here the bias is against the sort of people who literally drug their babies to have them fall asleep. Otherwise they get a lot more governmental aide than the local population, as they genuinely need it.
Why don’t you tell europeans to stop genociding the Romani, give them back their land and traveling rights, stop stealing their homes and camps when they move around, stop discriminating against them, stop over policing them… what the fuck why am I even talking to you
Sure, let me go tell my Romani relatives to give up their jobs and try to fullfill your noble savage fantasy. Maybe they can dance and make nice copper cups for your enjoyment.
Those people were destroyed over here centuries ago. You’re not going to recreate them by changing a few laws, but I do support that idea if there are still any čergari left around somehow…
I’ve said nothing about giving up jobs, you brought that up and the racist stereotypes on your own. My point is that we should be blaming europe’s shitty genocidal policies, not the victims of those policies. Also they haven’t been destroyed, obviously Romani people are still all around the world today.
This person sounds exactly like how patsocs talk about indigenous people in the Americas, as though they aren’t still here and deserving of their sovereignty.
Think of it like extremist religious communities. Sure, gypsies support each other, but they’re also generationally perpetuating their way of living. For example even if they get a chance to attend schools they often get pulled out by their parents to get married and/or start working before they finish primary education. They live in tightly knit communities, speak their own language that’s completely separate from the local one, and live in a drastically different culture.
In other words, your friends and relatives will help you to raise your five children, but your parents are the reason you started having them at fourteen and why you can barely speak the language of the country you’re living in.
It’s pretty fucked up all around, especially when you consider the fact that they had to call themselves “human” in their own language (rom), and popularise phrases like “gypsies also have souls”.
Wow what do you think culture is? You do know that eradicating culture is a form of genocide? Roma people keeping their culture is a good thing, not a bad thing. Being sedentary is not superior to being nomadic, and there’s a huge bias against the Roma and other traditionally nomadic peoples from people with sedentary-supremacist mindsets.
Letting your children get educated, become literate, and have a chance to escape poverty is not genocide. If you can imagine shit like removing 13-14 year old girls from school to get married and bear children a nice cultural tradition, then you’ve got some serious issues. I’ve seen that happen to my peers, and it’s not good for anyone.
In most Balkan countries Romani haven’t been nomadic since around the 19th century. Now they’re either just regular people or live in absolute poverty and have to fight to survive. In both cases they’re sedentary, the only difference is whether they’re living in a house made of bricks or out of cardboard.
At least over here the bias is against the sort of people who literally drug their babies to have them fall asleep. Otherwise they get a lot more governmental aide than the local population, as they genuinely need it.
Why don’t you tell europeans to stop genociding the Romani, give them back their land and traveling rights, stop stealing their homes and camps when they move around, stop discriminating against them, stop over policing them… what the fuck why am I even talking to you
Sure, let me go tell my Romani relatives to give up their jobs and try to fullfill your noble savage fantasy. Maybe they can dance and make nice copper cups for your enjoyment.
Those people were destroyed over here centuries ago. You’re not going to recreate them by changing a few laws, but I do support that idea if there are still any čergari left around somehow…
Literal nazi in the house.
I hope bad things happen to you.
I’ve said nothing about giving up jobs, you brought that up and the racist stereotypes on your own. My point is that we should be blaming europe’s shitty genocidal policies, not the victims of those policies. Also they haven’t been destroyed, obviously Romani people are still all around the world today.
This person sounds exactly like how patsocs talk about indigenous people in the Americas, as though they aren’t still here and deserving of their sovereignty.
Don’t just comment to me, use the hammer!
Interesting…