Greetings dear lemm.ee folks,

I have noticed an increasing number of lemm.ee users dissatisfied with Hexbearians. Reading through the modlogs on hexbear.net, I have observed truckloads of lemm.ee users being banned on hexbear.net, meaning that they won’t see any Hexbearian’s reply to them since Hexbearians aren’t able to see their comments. Despite this, I have yet to see the complaints from lemm.ee die down. May I politely ask, what is it that makes so many lemm.ee users hate us? And, how can we improve? Thanks!

I humbly request that all parties involved in the comments refrain from using slurs or name-calling to reduce the workload on mods and admins.

  • keepcarrot [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    142·
    1 year ago

    I personally avoid argument threads for the most part unless I have a dire social need, but not every conversation is necessarily about the Holodomor and Xinjiang (the two points of contention it seems).

    I’d hope that everyone I talk to and take seriously is a denier of “White Genocide”, the theory that white people are under threat of being bred out and marginalised in their own lands by the deliberate machinations of refugees and immigrants. In this rather gross example, we wouldn’t refer to each other as genocide deniers.

    After which point it becomes a discussion about what actually happened, what constitutes a genocide, whether that fits this legal definition or that etc. But the conversation never gets that far.

    Personally I’m not super interested in relitigating this conversation every time a Chinese cop does something or a member of Azov sneezes. But if other people get something out of it, idk. Whatever. But it is a point of friction between our communities.

    • Spzi@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      I personally avoid argument threads for the most part unless I have a dire social need, but not every conversation is necessarily about the Holodomor and Xinjiang (the two points of contention it seems).

      I’d hope that everyone I talk to and take seriously is a denier of “White Genocide”, the theory that white people are under threat of being bred out and marginalised in their own lands by the deliberate machinations of refugees and immigrants. In this rather gross example, we wouldn’t refer to each other as genocide deniers.

      Genocide denial refers to pretending a genocide did not happen. You’re talking about a conspiracy theory. “We are under [perceived] threat” is something else, notably weaker, than “We are being eradicated”. Not agreeing to a conspiracy theory is not similar to denying a piece of history happened.

      This answer made me question wether you are arguing in good faith. It feels like a mix of confusing terms and some whataboutism. When you were aware what the points of contention are, why bring up another, unrelated, imaginary example which doesn’t even fit?

      This allows the reader to question wether you see other, actual genocides as similar to imagined ones, which are only subject of conspiracy theories, not mass graves. I can see how this can be read as genocide denial, or at least downplaying.