Vincent Oriedo, a biotechnology scientist, had just such a question. What lessons have been learned, he asked, from Harris’s defeat in this vital swing county in a crucial battleground state that voted for Joe Biden four years ago, and how are the Democrats applying them?

“They did not answer the question,” he said.

“It tells me that they haven’t learned the lessons and they have their inner state of denial. I’ve been paying careful attention to the influencers within the Democratic party. Their discussions have centred around, ‘If only we messaged better, if only we had a better candidate, if only we did all these superficial things.’ There is really a lack of understanding that they are losing their base, losing constituencies they are taking for granted.”

“We have set ourselves up for generational loss because we keep promoting from within leaders that that do not criticise the moneyed interests. They refuse to take a hard look at what Americans actually believe and meet those needs.”

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    Let’s see:

    Democrat voter base is steadily more and more changing from the blue collar worker to the more educated, college/university citizen.

    Problem: there are more blue collar workers than university/college educated citizens

    Part of the democrat campaign zeitgeist is that if you don’t vote for them, then you are [EXPLETIVE].

    Problem: most people don’t like to vote for the party with members that calls them slurs

    Democrats think that Kamala lost because she is a woman

    Problem: for the average voter, gender doesn’t matter in any of the key areas a president has to manage

    For the collectivists, the average male voter is assumed to be privileged, racist, bigoted, homophobic, millionaire, uneducated, emotionally stunted, a rapist, a Nazi, not people, and so on

    Problem: assuming this is true for every male voter in the sweeping criticism of the patriarchy has left the male voter disenchanted and being pushed into the only people who are listening to them and their problems of unemployment, lack of financial security, health issues, and so on.

    There is much more but yeah you guys tried to PIVOT the entirety of your message from the key 4 years like 2 months before the end of the campaign and you couldn’t even do that correctly.

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        Anyone who whines about downvotes should be downvoted, since they are off-topic.

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          Who’s whining (Apparently Predicting that bigots will downvote = whining) ?? all I see is people who cannot stand the bitter truth & apparently you are the arbitter of what is off-topic & what is not

          Not that it matters, because at the end the point is very simple, you leftists never learn & are in denial about your losses (yes I know Democrats are liberals)<br> Hence you’ll keep on losing, until you’re dust; Hell, even you leftists when push comes to shove behave like/devolve into right-wingers & use their talking points

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        Patriarchy is not a binary issue. Even at the height of Patriarchy, there will still be issues where women have the upper hand. In today’s world, Patriarchy has steadily been weakened by people’s efforts, but that doesn’t mean your system is no longer based on Patriarchy.

        In order to uproot Patriarchy, you need to destroy the whole system and rebuild from the ground up, which is of course, impractical and clearly haven’t been done.

        If you strongly believe you no longer have a Patriarchy in the US, please show me when did this over turning event that uprooted Patriarchy from your system occurred.

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          Oh There’s no need to “Believe”, that would imply there’s no factual evidence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve9ZZNfytns

          This not just a US thing, it’s a global thing No such thing as a “Patriarchy” (If women are in power in a patriarchy then it isn’t much of a patriarchy now is it, also feminists demand men to be tied down to their gender roles while demanding women to be exempt from their, when they should be demanding to free both genders)

          Gynocentrism on the other hand is very real

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            You think that there’s no patriarchy because some women have power? Damn, I know lemmy is full of morons but cmon

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              Ok then let’s look at the definition of Patriarchy, if women can get that much power then it isn’t a patriarchy, PERIOD Did any Jews get into positions of power under Nazism ? Nope

              Yet again you ignore the material I provided & resort to gaslighting, Ok I wasn’t exactly an anti-feminist before, now I am (Thanks for the final push, I am being genuine here)

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            Your ignorant anti-feminist views are garbage and will be downvoted into oblivion here. People know better. Feminism is not anti-men in any sense. Feminism is about freedom of choice.

            Claiming patriarchy doesn’t exist is like claiming the world is flat.

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              Feminism has always been anti-men, We never see you feminists push back against misandry, in fact you enable it Ms.Bigot Calling something garbage doesn’t make it garbage & claiming that Feminism has never been anti-men is like claiming the KK were never out to kill blacks

              & of course you resort to censorship, never engage in any debates that are not controlled & downvote without checking the evidences

              People don’t know better, I can list of priviledges that women have that are encoded into law along with the factual evidences from NGOs & Human rights groups & federal-backed studies, Feminist via their action have provn time & time again that they’re fundamentally against equality (there were plenty in the videos I linked, interesting you don’t mention even a single point) but you’ll still skip all of that & just downvote & use Ad-Hominem attacks & at best will give very neutral milquetoast excused

              The right-wingers are more misandric than the left & the left has the better ideas but, since the left have openly embraced misandry, they’ll keep losing to the right who are discretely misandric (also Feminism is right wing in practice, e.g: TERFs)

              If I was really scared of a few downvotes then I would be afraid of speaking out

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          Why believe when I can prove

          This is going to be interesting, if you reject this then it’ll be clear that you are not interested in having a proper debate UPDATE: None of you watched the video did you, then make peace with your defeat.

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          Says the person who is made out of shit, but then calling you shit would be an insult to shit