And they’re already kissing Trump’s ass

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    In principle yes, but it is in general dangerous to think that social media can be a learning moment and people should use whatever pushed to them to guide their behavior.

    The content is eventually controlled by several monopolies and will serve their own good. As social media are natural monopolies, it is also really hard to build ethical platforms that competes with the ones backed by capital.

    Westerners are priviliaged to have a diverse and free news/media landscape, non-profits pushing for truthful and accessible knowledge, and world-class educational institutions. I, as a Chinese, have never experienced such when growing up.

    Yet, I see people insist a giant Chinese tech monopoly is their best learning experience, instead of resorting to more time-proven, unbiased, and trust-worthy ways to learn. Doesn’t this sound dangerous to you?

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      Westerners are priviliaged to have a diverse and free news/media landscape, non-profits pushing for truthful and accessible knowledge, and world-class educational institutions

      Bullshit. Westerners fall for western propaganda as much as anyone. Most on Lemmy were certain that the submarine cables were destroyed by the Russians on purpose, turns out the consensus isn’t the case. Most on Lemmy were certain that Nordstream was blown up by Russian, turned out not to be the case. Most on Lemmy believe there’s an ongoing genocide against Uyghur people, turns out it’s not the case. Most on Lemmy believe there was a massacre in Tiananmen square (good luck asking them to spell it) because the CPC sent the PLA to murder protestors, instead of a clash between protestors and military which happened after weeks of pro-capitalist protests and started after protestors murdered some military personnel in negotiation attempts. Most on Lemmy are willing to forgive the support for Genocide in Gaza to the US and its constant imperialism and aren’t willing to do the same for other countries.

      You’re just being extremely chauvinist and ignorant about the quality of information in the west, and unaware of the manufacture of consent and the fabrication of false information and narratives.

      resorting to more time-proven, unbiased, and trust-worthy ways to learn

      Which are these unbiased ways to learn you talk about? Can you provide me any examples?

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        Okay this debate has been way too tiring for me. I am not going to explain to another rich western kid why you are more fortunate than my friend who have been separated from her activist dad for decades.

        If you don’t believe western privilege is real and you are as oppressed as the numerous dictatorships across the world… Good for you I guess, and I will not entertain this topic further.

        As for ways to learn, I prefer through peer-reviewed literature; high-effort investigative journalism; and learn from people who have worked decades in the field, and specifically hired to research and teach.

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          At no point did I discuss political prisoners (who exist in my Western European country too, believe it or not). I discussed the reliability of mass media, the level of state propaganda, manufactured consent and fabricated news. Some person you know being in prison has nothing to do with that, don’t immediately go and play the victim card, we’ were discussing western media here. You’re just shutting your ears and saying “the existence of authority abuse elsewhere means you have no right to mention the western bias in western media”.