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      As a user of YouTube Music, quite possibly.

      They probably still deserve raises.

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      It sounds like your job requires no talent and you could be easily replaced. Is it so?

      Just because there are other people out there who can do the same job as you (or them) doesn’t mean that it takes no skill, nor that replacing them can be done at a snap of the fingers. But nobody is irreplaceable. That’s how companies see their employees. Even you.

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        Of course everyone deserves a raise and I do hope they get everything they’re asking for, but some people are more easily replaceable than others and in this case there might just be nothing stopping them from being replaced. It sucks, but Google isn’t technically required to negotiate.

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          So? The whole point of organizing is that under capitalism, corporations hold way more bargaining power than individuals. Pointing out that a corporation isn’t “required” to cooperate is basically a non-statement.

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            That’s a very defeatist attitude. In this case Google can just sign the contract to another company, but unions do work historically.

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              They “work historically” because workers fought “illegally” for years for the rights and protections that exist today. I don’t understand how this is defeatist. I’m all for worker power, and I’m glad these people are trying to push the needle further.

              Pointing out that the current state of the law isn’t on their side is either “defeatist” because it has some implicit is/ought bias or implies that they won’t change anything, or it’s meaningless because they already know what they’re fighting against.

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      I strongly suspect you didn’t even read what they fucking do at Youtube.

      Anyway, what they do surely takes more skill than you shitting out thoughtless comments on the internet.

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        They’re literally replying to a comment which made that case. It wasn’t even their original idea and you’re shitting on them for it. Learn to fucking read.

        Edit: wow and it’s your own comment that you apparently don’t know how to read.

        Once this happens, Google just says “Oops, you’re shit out of luck” and then hires a whole new company of contracted workers for the same work, for cheaper.

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          Literally everyone is replaceable with someone cheaper. So-called “skilled” positions aren’t safe from that. What the other person is positing is that they must be unskilled if they can be replaced. CEOs get replaced regularly, does that make them “no talent and easily replaced?”

          Like get a fucking reality check, do you know how many workers in the US economy are literally unreplaceable? Very, very few. There’s tons of people out there with your exact skillset, and some of them are willing to work for cheaper than you are. Shocker.

          The idea that this only happens to UnSkIlLeD LaBoR is a joke and I’m sick of seeing it trotted out as some sort of gotcha by you fucking troglodytes.

          The key was the dogwhistle of “unskilled labor” in the words “no talent and easily replaced.”

          If I “fire” Microsoft Azure as my Cloud Hosting Provider, and switch to Amazon Web Services, does that mean Microsoft Azure workers are “talentless and easily replaced?” Like get a grip on fucking reality here for a minute.

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        I was basing my question on the plan how Google uses contract work. Well it’s fucking hard to just throw that staff away if it’s not easy or what? Try to fucking give two seconds of thought before being an asshole fucking shit head.

        My question was about them not being easily replaceable, like that other comment seemed to describe.

        Have a shit fucking life.

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            Sorry about coming off as rude but all I wanted was an answer why they’d be easily replaceable because that’s the only way Google can willynilly just fire the entire staff. Otherwise the premise doesn’t make sense.

            But you’re probably six feet deep on a five foot pole so apologies probably won’t do too much for your.

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                What can I say, it kinda pisses me off that they set me up and can’t even answer the question.

                Good news is that since I’m easily replaceable the next guy can worry about the perfect apology.

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                  Gonna go out on a limb and say you could have answered the question yourself in the last (checks time) hour since you first posted because you could have, I don’t know, read the fucking article.

                  Quit making excuses for yourself being a fucking jackass. Sorry you expect people to read the source for you because you apparently can’t be fucked to do so, but can spend an hour whinging about how nobody read the article for you and baby spoon fed it to your dumb ass.

                  Literally you could already know the answer, you’ve chosen not to.