Ask a Chinese person if Winnie the Pooh is censored. Or any Chinese source.
It’s simply not. It’s a myth like the social credit score system. I sincerely don’t understand how you people believe the things you believe. If I say the government in america censors Oreos because some Americans call black people that are too white Oreos… You’d easily understand it’s bullshit.
Because someone reading might have a thought that these people aren’t correct. Without opposing views these people just get worse and more degenerate over time. Within a decade the US population went from being mildly bigoted to full fascism building and actively using concentration camps. Only unlike all previous fascists they have no business sense and are bound to implode sooner than later.
If any among those that think us democrats are left wing can be educated before the fall, the countries that will come out of the collapse of the US won’t be as violent or useless to the rest of humanity as the US has been.
We’re stuck in this universe together, on this floating rock together. Maybe, just maybe, after the bigots purge each other, we can continue the great work and unite under cooperation. But that requires some dreaming of more than capitalism and racism.
If you think any socialist country is fascist I implore you to read ur-fascism by Umberto eco at the every least before ever commenting on the matter again. Some have been authoritarian. None have been anything close to fascist.
Remember kids, evil commies are the sole and exclusive reason German isn’t the global language and we’re not in a thousand year Reich.
Well good thing you’ve read the paper then, and now know fascism isn’t when the government does things and the more the government does things the more fascist it is, or whatever thing you were thinking before.
Because the host you’re using, or the specific model, has those censors enabled to follow state law, just as all US hosted LLMs will have to call the gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America within the year.
Use the uncensored model and run it locally. Or better yet don’t use LLMs whatsoever since they destroy the earth faster than crypto while providing even less benefit.
A) LLMs are not a source. They never will be. They do not have the capacity to say true things any more than any other random number generator.
B) the reason the exact question you asked is censored is not because of Winnie the Pooh, a chapter featured to this day on tv, in theme parks, in children’s books, and across the internet. It is because the only response from the training data the LLM was trained on could generate is disinformation as forbidden by mainland law. No, Chinese users on WeChat didn’t start the meme. This is categorically false, and instead of repeating this explanation constantly to whatever racist fuck tries to justify it, sites and information to the contrary are simply blocked.
It’s less work to fight bigots that way. Imagine if a bunch of people suddenly claimed that a picture of Obama as a monkey was made by black Americans as a total in joke about how he walked one time because that makes sense. Instead of explaining to every person that wonders if it’s true, just don’t even entertain the question.
In the West, smart people call the technique being blocked JAQing off, aka ‘im just asking questions.’ it’s a staple argumentative technique of fascists, and it takes more energy to interact with than just stopping it at the source.
You can disagree with that method, that we should waste time addressing every bigoted question a million billion times, but as we see in the US that simply does not work so you need to present another solution.
It stops you from trying to generate proof of obvious misinformation. It stops the fascist technique of JAQing off, which you’ve been doing to try to prove whatever misguided point your owners put in your head.
I do hope you people get better before you get put in camps.
Thanks I needed a good laugh this morning! LMAO I’m no right-wing in any sense of the word, I just don’t suck the dick of authoritarian regimes like you and other Tankies do. The irony here is that you Tankies are closer to right-wingers because of your authoritarian tendencies. See: Stethoscope theory
Oh also, you forgot to log into your .ml account because nobody is calling for defed from SJW lolol you’re still in your “I’m totally from China” week old account LMAO
No, racist bigotry is racist bigotry, like believing Chinese people are a hive mind and must just be too stupid to want liberal democracy.
And no, people that disagree with you aren’t trolls. You people came to the Internet too late and don’t know the meaning of the word.
Yes, 400 million people are totally hive minded and brainwashed into believing a party line that’s just so illogical to you, because obviously you have all the answers, and these 400 million people oppress a billion who are statistically higher educated and better trained with weapons than the US population, who trains with weapons outside military and special response police work. That’s completely believable. Just like ten million people being locked up with no satellite evidence of any prison.
IDK what 400 million people you’re talking about, considering there’s more people than that just in the demographic that’s retired and taking a pension in China, but I do know for sure tankies are a brainwashed hive mind. The Soviet Union coined a term for people like you, “useful idiots”.
That’s the number of people involved in the CCP. That’s the number of people you believe are brainwashed, that you think have no internal dialogue, that you think have no critical thinking skills, that you think are either stupid or being forced to participate in what you call a dictatorship.
If you think 400 million people can, without a single desertion, maintain a conspiracy to control the other billion in behalf of one or truly any number of people… You’re a maga Republican, conspiracy theories, etc. your thought process is no different.
Oooooh. Those people. No, they aren’t brainwashed, they know exactly what they are doing. You don’t need to work very hard when you give people ultimate power.
…they are voted into office or appointed by those voted into office. Every citizen has the right to vote. They are given power commiserate to their position. No one has ultimate power and anyone can have their power taken away at any time.
Do you think xi was a appointed by dynasty or something?
Do you just not know how governments work outside the US?
Who said he was yellow? I don’t recall seeing anyone say that. But I’d be willing to suspend disbelief enough to theorize that has they, maybe it was meant to imply he’s a coward. Because yellow is an old school term used to describe cowards- and, he is a coward…
You only feel this way because you agree in lock-step loyalty with Pooh that free speech and criticism of an oppressive world leader should be illegal. To everyone else that is capable of free-thinking and common sense-
It’s a freedom worth exercising.
I sincerely hope that when you’re free of the constraints of your edgy high-school angst and manufactured outrage, you’ll see how cringy it is to defend little Pooh Bear and hopefully come to your senses.
Criticism is allowed and encouraged in China… But you have to back it up. Xi has a doctorate, all members of parliament have at least the equivalent of masters degrees. "Hurrtr duuurrrr China bad because of (insert something from 80 years ago from a completely different internal party)’ isn’t going to cut it.
I hope you get better soon. Racists are the reason the US is actively destroying itself via Trump’s trade war. You need to be better if you want to survive.
I checked your comment history and wow… you’re nothing without your false accusations, are you?
I mean- I suppose with times being what they are, I can understand your hero warship of that coward Xi, your angenda-inspired rhetoric, and even the schoolyard edgelord insults, but accusing people of racism with absolutely no evidence to support it?
That’s sad and desperate.
And judging on the reaction you get, and your many mod/admin actions of removal- it doesn’t seem like it’s succeeded even a single time to achieve whatever result you’re after.
But best of luck on your next victim. Remember. Volume is key.
You’ve yet to disparage anyone, you just used a famously racist stereotype to describe an Asian. Or rather you’re defending it an neither pretending you don’t see the problem, or don’t find a problem with your countries history and use of it.
In either case cletus, I hope you get everything you voted for with Trump. You deserve and have earned it.
Please do. Dealing with you right wing bigots is as annoying as visiting reddit is now that you people ruined that site.
Your comment got me into a really neat rabbit hole about censorship in China, thank you!
I started here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China
And got to all sorts of sad and interesting places.
Ask a Chinese person if Winnie the Pooh is censored. Or any Chinese source.
It’s simply not. It’s a myth like the social credit score system. I sincerely don’t understand how you people believe the things you believe. If I say the government in america censors Oreos because some Americans call black people that are too white Oreos… You’d easily understand it’s bullshit.
Why are you wasting your time dealing with “right wing bigots”?
Because someone reading might have a thought that these people aren’t correct. Without opposing views these people just get worse and more degenerate over time. Within a decade the US population went from being mildly bigoted to full fascism building and actively using concentration camps. Only unlike all previous fascists they have no business sense and are bound to implode sooner than later.
If any among those that think us democrats are left wing can be educated before the fall, the countries that will come out of the collapse of the US won’t be as violent or useless to the rest of humanity as the US has been.
We’re stuck in this universe together, on this floating rock together. Maybe, just maybe, after the bigots purge each other, we can continue the great work and unite under cooperation. But that requires some dreaming of more than capitalism and racism.
How can you simultaneously be anti and pro fascism?
If you think any socialist country is fascist I implore you to read ur-fascism by Umberto eco at the every least before ever commenting on the matter again. Some have been authoritarian. None have been anything close to fascist.
Remember kids, evil commies are the sole and exclusive reason German isn’t the global language and we’re not in a thousand year Reich.
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Well good thing you’ve read the paper then, and now know fascism isn’t when the government does things and the more the government does things the more fascist it is, or whatever thing you were thinking before.
Really? It’s a myth? I had no idea! To learn more, I used China-based Deepseek to find more information!
Aaand it broke, oh no!
An LLM fails to do something? Must be a day ending in y.
Why does it exclusively fail when discussing topics I have been led to believe China censors online, but works perfectly otherwise?
Because the host you’re using, or the specific model, has those censors enabled to follow state law, just as all US hosted LLMs will have to call the gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America within the year.
Use the uncensored model and run it locally. Or better yet don’t use LLMs whatsoever since they destroy the earth faster than crypto while providing even less benefit.
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I’m dying laughing, they literally requested I ask a Chinese source, I did and it proved them wrong, beyond parody XD
A) LLMs are not a source. They never will be. They do not have the capacity to say true things any more than any other random number generator.
B) the reason the exact question you asked is censored is not because of Winnie the Pooh, a chapter featured to this day on tv, in theme parks, in children’s books, and across the internet. It is because the only response from the training data the LLM was trained on could generate is disinformation as forbidden by mainland law. No, Chinese users on WeChat didn’t start the meme. This is categorically false, and instead of repeating this explanation constantly to whatever racist fuck tries to justify it, sites and information to the contrary are simply blocked.
It’s less work to fight bigots that way. Imagine if a bunch of people suddenly claimed that a picture of Obama as a monkey was made by black Americans as a total in joke about how he walked one time because that makes sense. Instead of explaining to every person that wonders if it’s true, just don’t even entertain the question.
In the West, smart people call the technique being blocked JAQing off, aka ‘im just asking questions.’ it’s a staple argumentative technique of fascists, and it takes more energy to interact with than just stopping it at the source.
You can disagree with that method, that we should waste time addressing every bigoted question a million billion times, but as we see in the US that simply does not work so you need to present another solution.
Ah, I see, so the China-based model can’t answer any questions about China due to censorship!
Thank you for helping me see just how bad censorship is in China, I had no firsthand experience until now!
It stops you from trying to generate proof of obvious misinformation. It stops the fascist technique of JAQing off, which you’ve been doing to try to prove whatever misguided point your owners put in your head.
I do hope you people get better before you get put in camps.
Thanks I needed a good laugh this morning! LMAO I’m no right-wing in any sense of the word, I just don’t suck the dick of authoritarian regimes like you and other Tankies do. The irony here is that you Tankies are closer to right-wingers because of your authoritarian tendencies. See: Stethoscope theory
Oh also, you forgot to log into your .ml account because nobody is calling for defed from SJW lolol you’re still in your “I’m totally from China” week old account LMAO
As often as you post outright racist memes, it’s truly a wonder you have the gall to claim the things you claim.
You’re just a disgusting bigot, no better or worse than a MAGAt. You’re just content with state approved, democrat approved bigotry.
Tankie logic: Anything critical of China/Russia/NK = ThAT’s RaCiSt BiGoTRy
Hate to break it to you, but the CCP is in fact an authoritarian regime with multiple human rights violations at its feet.
Nothin but a lil troll LMAO
Pretty sure they’re just genuinely propagandized based on my discussion with them. But who knows
Yea it can be hard to tell sometimes lol
No, racist bigotry is racist bigotry, like believing Chinese people are a hive mind and must just be too stupid to want liberal democracy.
And no, people that disagree with you aren’t trolls. You people came to the Internet too late and don’t know the meaning of the word.
Yes, 400 million people are totally hive minded and brainwashed into believing a party line that’s just so illogical to you, because obviously you have all the answers, and these 400 million people oppress a billion who are statistically higher educated and better trained with weapons than the US population, who trains with weapons outside military and special response police work. That’s completely believable. Just like ten million people being locked up with no satellite evidence of any prison.
IDK what 400 million people you’re talking about, considering there’s more people than that just in the demographic that’s retired and taking a pension in China, but I do know for sure tankies are a brainwashed hive mind. The Soviet Union coined a term for people like you, “useful idiots”.
That’s the number of people involved in the CCP. That’s the number of people you believe are brainwashed, that you think have no internal dialogue, that you think have no critical thinking skills, that you think are either stupid or being forced to participate in what you call a dictatorship.
If you think 400 million people can, without a single desertion, maintain a conspiracy to control the other billion in behalf of one or truly any number of people… You’re a maga Republican, conspiracy theories, etc. your thought process is no different.
Oooooh. Those people. No, they aren’t brainwashed, they know exactly what they are doing. You don’t need to work very hard when you give people ultimate power.
…they are voted into office or appointed by those voted into office. Every citizen has the right to vote. They are given power commiserate to their position. No one has ultimate power and anyone can have their power taken away at any time.
Do you think xi was a appointed by dynasty or something?
Do you just not know how governments work outside the US?
All this: because someone made fun of poor little Pooh.
Calling Chinese people yellow is racist regardless of whatever justification you give it.
I hope you eventually see Asians as people.
Who said he was yellow? I don’t recall seeing anyone say that. But I’d be willing to suspend disbelief enough to theorize that has they, maybe it was meant to imply he’s a coward. Because yellow is an old school term used to describe cowards- and, he is a coward…
So…
Shoe fits!
If you did this much mental gymnastics on a pic of Obama as a monkey, you’d be banned from all platforms except x.
Hope you understand that someday when you get better.
You only feel this way because you agree in lock-step loyalty with Pooh that free speech and criticism of an oppressive world leader should be illegal. To everyone else that is capable of free-thinking and common sense-
It’s a freedom worth exercising.
I sincerely hope that when you’re free of the constraints of your edgy high-school angst and manufactured outrage, you’ll see how cringy it is to defend little Pooh Bear and hopefully come to your senses.
“hurr durr Asian man yellow” is not criticism.
Criticism is allowed and encouraged in China… But you have to back it up. Xi has a doctorate, all members of parliament have at least the equivalent of masters degrees. "Hurrtr duuurrrr China bad because of (insert something from 80 years ago from a completely different internal party)’ isn’t going to cut it.
I hope you get better soon. Racists are the reason the US is actively destroying itself via Trump’s trade war. You need to be better if you want to survive.
I checked your comment history and wow… you’re nothing without your false accusations, are you?
I mean- I suppose with times being what they are, I can understand your hero warship of that coward Xi, your angenda-inspired rhetoric, and even the schoolyard edgelord insults, but accusing people of racism with absolutely no evidence to support it?
That’s sad and desperate.
And judging on the reaction you get, and your many mod/admin actions of removal- it doesn’t seem like it’s succeeded even a single time to achieve whatever result you’re after.
But best of luck on your next victim. Remember. Volume is key.
Removed by mod
Thanks! And you have fun in your crusade to accuse everyone of racism because they disparaged your cowardly little dictator.
You’ve yet to disparage anyone, you just used a famously racist stereotype to describe an Asian. Or rather you’re defending it an neither pretending you don’t see the problem, or don’t find a problem with your countries history and use of it.
In either case cletus, I hope you get everything you voted for with Trump. You deserve and have earned it.