I know nothing should surprise me with these fucking people at this point, but my mouth still dropped open when I read that.

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    When it’s fptp yes that’s the litteral outcome. Everyone SHOULD vote for the best candidate that represents them, in FPTP that’s not how it works. When only one of 2 parties could get elected in the US and one of them is a fascist dictator, and the other isn’t that is how it must work. When fptp is removed, and you could get a real democracy then yes. Until then the only moral option is to mitigate harm

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      And that literally doesn’t solve anything. It just postpones the inevitable. Democracy lost the moment DNC plotted against Bernie Sanders back in 2016. What would you think would happen if we had another 4 years of Democrats? Fascism would just come 4 years later.

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        It would give 4 years to work towards electing more progressive people at a municipal and state level. It literally give a chance to solve something instead of being accelerationist.

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            It genuinely did, for many Americans, trans rights, federal funding for science. Should it have been better? Yes. Because it wasn’t perfect does that mean fascism should be allowed in? No.

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              All these are just a smokescreen. Inequality is the real issue, and the rich got richer, while the poor got poorer.

              I am not saying that fascism should be allowed in. I am just saying that people who feel left out, and who feel that society has betrayed them, they will start searching for other alternatives to our current system. Who left them out?

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                The GOP historically. If you want equality you don’t vote for the party that is shouting out “you are lesser than me, you are my slaves”

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                  I totally agree that the GOP is shit. Thing is that the DNC was preaching one thing and doing another, while simultaneously raising issues that were completely irrelevant to 95%+ of its base. “You can’t feed your family? OK, but that trans kid who you probably never interact with at any point in your life has now rights, and I will base my whole identity around that!” Do you know how many people are transexual in the United States? Less than 1%.

                  You are right, if you want equality you don’t vote for the GOP, but you sure as hell don’t vote for the DNC either.

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                    I’m sorry but if you can’t be happy that a fellow human has human rights then there is nothing more to say. It doesn’t matter that there are a small percentage of them. Because the fact of the matter is, trans rights are a sign for the rest of the country in question, human rights matter, take away trans rights, now the rest of the queer community, then POC then women are open to it. So it doesn’t just affect the trans community. If you mean making human rights my identity then you’re damn right I’m proud to make human rights my identity.