• NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml
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    20 hours ago

    Now this is just a dim take. We are fighting a war via a proxy (Ukraine) by offering the financial, logistical, and weapon support. Hence, a Proxy War.

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      13 hours ago

      What’s dim is refusing to recognise that this war was started by Russia. Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, then increased their invasion in 2022. Ukraine asked the West for military help so the West provided military help.

      Maybe Ukraine should have been allowed to join NATO years ago when they asked, and then they might not have been invaded.

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          6 hours ago

          Ukraine’s not a member of NATO

          Indeed. That’s why I said maybe Ukraine should have been allowed to join NATO years ago. That might have prevented this invasion.

          i never disputed who the primary aggressor was in this war

          So you think Russia invaded, but then the West used this as an opportunity to harm Russia. Maybe the West wasn’t interested in harming Russia for the sake of harming Russia. Maybe the West just wanted Russia to stop its invasion of Ukraine.

          • NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml
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            6 hours ago

            Russia invaded and i think the west didn’t care until we were out of our other forever wars and we needed a new way to keep the military industrial complex afloat.

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              4 hours ago

              Would you have preferred to see the West provide nothing to Ukraine and instead just watch Ukraine get taken over by Russia? Perhaps that would have resulted in fewer deaths, but who knows. Russian forces probably would have still killed a lot of Ukrainians, and they would have subjugated Ukrainians, and probably they would have still committed rape and other acts.