First like 5 episodes they already have sexism, and ableism, as well as referencing Elon musk as well as capturing a creature and using it for there own agenda, like wtf is this? Does it ever become less shitty or should I just skip it?

  • TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    12 days ago

    I think Disco would have been far better received if it were a sci-fi not set in the Star Trek universe.

    I did not care for it. But also I don’t want a lot of serialized storytelling and melodrama in general.

    Doug Jones is cool. Sonequa Martin-Green has a lot asked of her and consistently delivers.

  • CubitOom@infosec.pub
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    12 days ago

    It keeps getting worse sadly. Season 1 was one of the better written seasons.

  • snooggums@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    12 days ago

    You should skip it because it leans harder and harder into the things you don’t like in a Star Trek show.

    I watched the first two episodes to give it a chance. Only kept watching it because my wife wanted to watch it together. Made it to the end of season 3 before she lost interest.

    A few ensemble characters were memorable, but the writers did a terrible job of making the main character’s arc understandable or plausible. A character who doesn’t follow the rules either needs to be right most of the time to show they are a foil for authority’s mistakes or learn they aren’t as smart as they think they are by facing consequences. Michael just ignored orders and failed up the whole time while learning nothing. She did get motional about it, but didn’t actually change her behavior. The actress did a fine job with what she had to work with, I blame the writing.

    Since the main character’s story is the primary focus of nearly every episode, this really dragged down the side character stories, which were mostly good to great.

  • stargazingpenguin@lemmy.zipM
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    12 days ago

    I’ve never felt like finishing the show, but from what I’ve heard (and what the IMDB ratings show) it gets worse as it goes. Maybe try a few season 2 episodes before you skip the rest, I remember it having a little bit different feel than the first.

    If you want to watch modern Trek, I think Strange New Worlds is much closer to the classic shows. Although it’s definitely not perfect, I’ve enjoyed it quite a bit.

  • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    12 days ago

    Trek started going downhill after TNG.

    At least DS9 tried to maintain the “morality play” idea while expanding into a larger-world concept.

    Then Enterprise struck, with the “gotta fill the back story for all the kids who just can’t stand to not know all the details of how it started”.

    This concept/approach has killed so much stuff in the last 20 years.

      • harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        12 days ago

        I don’t know if I’d go that far. I enjoyed it when it first aired but I can’t watch reruns of about 90% of the episodes.

        • 1SimpleTailor@startrek.website
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          12 days ago

          As someone who loves TNG, it’s a very mixed bag of a show. It has very high highs, and very low lows. It’s a product of its era of television for better or worse.

    • 1SimpleTailor@startrek.website
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      11 days ago

      DS9 is peak Star Trek. Its far from perfect, but so is TNG. It’s the last Trek series to truly have vision. Subsequent writers unfortunately took the wrong lessons from the series, but we can hardly blame DS9 for that.

      The TNG films and Voyager are what began Star Treks downward spiral. Poor creative decisions and studio meddling doomed the TNG Films. Meanwhile, sloppy writing and a flawed premise that the show couldn’t even stick to make Voyager the most mid 90s Trek.

      ENT was just the final nail in the coffin. A complete regression of the series that nobody asked for. A desperate attempt at revival by a creative team that was out of ideas.

  • IngeniousRocks (They/She) @lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    12 days ago

    Regarding your issues with season 1. Keep watching. I don’t want to spoil anything but there’s a reason that specific character seems to be wholely evil and out of place in a post scarcity gay space communist utopia.

    Don’t get me wrong, it isn’t good Trek, honestly I’d almost argue it’s bad Trek, but if you’re looking for some high production value star Trek in an alternate dimension (finale of LD recanonized Disco as alternate universe content) then it can be worth a watch. The show (imo) is not worth continuing after they make their jump through the wormhole (you’ll know, it slows down to a crawl and turns the grimdark up to 11)

  • HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    12 days ago

    unfortunately it really should never have been put in the tos era. season 2 it moves to the future and that helps it out a lot but I think it would have worked out much better if they had placed it after voyager and not shoehorned in spock.