It’s inevitable to think capitalism is wrong, but it’s easier to fix than Communism or any other system.
I stopped to shout against capitalism simply cause we do not have a better solution yet. Also when capitalism gets wrong, it’s mostly because a lack of regulations. A balanced system, like socialdemocracies in Scandinavia are a good example.
Unfortunately it seems we are going towards autocracies everywhere, and that’s not capitalism’s fault but just human greediness. So in other word, we’re the problem, otherwise Socialism would reign all over the world.
communism is supposed to be the democratization of workplaces, on top of democratic politics.
why do you think that capitalism, that repeatedly navigates around the safety rails (for multiple centuries now) is easier to fix?
Capitalism erases its own foundations, Imperialist countries like the Nordics you use as good examples depend on hyper-exploitation of the Global South. The answer is Socialism, which is an inevitable process because over time Capitalism erases the foundations it stands on and no system is static, it always moves towards the next stages or it dies. Look at businesses, they never maintain static sizes, they either grow or die, or stay small enough to be irrelevant, in aggregate.
There’s frankly so many false assumptions here that it would take many well-developed comments to answer them all.
Most Socialists would not consider Venezuela to be Socialist, it has a sort of quasi-socialism but really is Capitalist, sort of like the Nordic Countries if they weren’t Imperialist. When Socialists refer to Socialism, they refer to AES, generally, such as the PRC, Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, and the former USSR.
The reason your comment is hard to properly address is because there are numerous questionable claims. How does one “fix Capitalism?” The answer you gave was using Imperialism to fund safety nets, that “works” for a small group of people at the expense of a much larger group. When you say “when Capitalism goes wrong, it’s due to a lack of regulations,” you don’t analyze who controls whether or not regulations are erased, ie the bourgeoisie, ergo all Capitalism is subject to the same failure.
Your solution is to blame everything on greed as though no solution can exist, this type of nihilism gets in the way of actually solving any problems, and you speak as though you have authority despite showing no apparant understanding of what Socialists want, or what their critique of Capitalism truly is. I’d take a step back and read some more, or ask questions like you started doing.
It feels to me you’re supposing a lot of stuff on top of the few words I wrote, and you started polarising the discussion.
I grown up in a communist family and I felt like for many years of my life, despite living in a democratic land. I’m quite far away from the capiralistic supporter you may think I am.
Let me understand. Do you think Russia, NK, Cambodia, Kuba, PRC, Vietnam and so on are/were good place to live in? Do you live in one of those places?
The very fact that you contrast Communism with Democracy, when Communism is democratic, is why it’s hard to take anything you’re saying seriously. Either you’re trying to critique Communism but haven’t actually done the critiquing so it just appears to be nonsense, or you legitimately don’t know that Communism is democratic. Neither give me much to work with.
To answer your question:
The Russian Federation is Capitalist, and thus irrelevant
The USSR was Socialist, and was better to live in than post-Soviet or pre-Soviet Russia.
The DPRK is Socialist, and is under an incredibly brutal trade embargo, and has had to recover from US attempts at genocide via destroying 80% of buildings and killing millions.
Cambodia was never really Socialist, its Quasi-Socialism under Pol Pot is divorced from any actual Marxist analysis and Pol Pot was supported by the US.
Cuba is, like the DPRK, under a brutal trade embargo and under constant pressure from thr United States. Despite that, key metrics like Life Expectancy are higher than neighboring Capitalist countries that aren’t closed off from the rest of the world.
The PRC is Socialist, and out of all of these countries is the one I would most like to live in. I am very bullish on the PRC continuing to make great strides in quality of life, and will soon become the de facto world power.
Vietnam is pretty cool, from my understanding. Socialism has been tremendously beneficial to the Vietnamese, and overthrowing French Colonialism was a massive step forward.
I live in the US Empire, and I understand that I live in the most Imperialist country on the planet. I want the Empire to fall, and to work towards more even development and industrialization along cooperative lines.
It’s inevitable to think capitalism is wrong, but it’s easier to fix than Communism or any other system.
I stopped to shout against capitalism simply cause we do not have a better solution yet. Also when capitalism gets wrong, it’s mostly because a lack of regulations. A balanced system, like socialdemocracies in Scandinavia are a good example.
Unfortunately it seems we are going towards autocracies everywhere, and that’s not capitalism’s fault but just human greediness. So in other word, we’re the problem, otherwise Socialism would reign all over the world.
communism is supposed to be the democratization of workplaces, on top of democratic politics.
why do you think that capitalism, that repeatedly navigates around the safety rails (for multiple centuries now) is easier to fix?
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Another classic example of anti-communists trying to describe communism and just ending up describing capitalism.
Can you name a commie country that has not ended in a dictatorship?
Capitalism erases its own foundations, Imperialist countries like the Nordics you use as good examples depend on hyper-exploitation of the Global South. The answer is Socialism, which is an inevitable process because over time Capitalism erases the foundations it stands on and no system is static, it always moves towards the next stages or it dies. Look at businesses, they never maintain static sizes, they either grow or die, or stay small enough to be irrelevant, in aggregate.
There’s frankly so many false assumptions here that it would take many well-developed comments to answer them all.
Socialism, ok, like which one?
Venezuela?
Most Socialists would not consider Venezuela to be Socialist, it has a sort of quasi-socialism but really is Capitalist, sort of like the Nordic Countries if they weren’t Imperialist. When Socialists refer to Socialism, they refer to AES, generally, such as the PRC, Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, and the former USSR.
The reason your comment is hard to properly address is because there are numerous questionable claims. How does one “fix Capitalism?” The answer you gave was using Imperialism to fund safety nets, that “works” for a small group of people at the expense of a much larger group. When you say “when Capitalism goes wrong, it’s due to a lack of regulations,” you don’t analyze who controls whether or not regulations are erased, ie the bourgeoisie, ergo all Capitalism is subject to the same failure.
Your solution is to blame everything on greed as though no solution can exist, this type of nihilism gets in the way of actually solving any problems, and you speak as though you have authority despite showing no apparant understanding of what Socialists want, or what their critique of Capitalism truly is. I’d take a step back and read some more, or ask questions like you started doing.
It feels to me you’re supposing a lot of stuff on top of the few words I wrote, and you started polarising the discussion.
I grown up in a communist family and I felt like for many years of my life, despite living in a democratic land. I’m quite far away from the capiralistic supporter you may think I am.
Let me understand. Do you think Russia, NK, Cambodia, Kuba, PRC, Vietnam and so on are/were good place to live in? Do you live in one of those places?
I responded to what you wrote, nothing more.
The very fact that you contrast Communism with Democracy, when Communism is democratic, is why it’s hard to take anything you’re saying seriously. Either you’re trying to critique Communism but haven’t actually done the critiquing so it just appears to be nonsense, or you legitimately don’t know that Communism is democratic. Neither give me much to work with.
To answer your question:
The Russian Federation is Capitalist, and thus irrelevant
The USSR was Socialist, and was better to live in than post-Soviet or pre-Soviet Russia.
The DPRK is Socialist, and is under an incredibly brutal trade embargo, and has had to recover from US attempts at genocide via destroying 80% of buildings and killing millions.
Cambodia was never really Socialist, its Quasi-Socialism under Pol Pot is divorced from any actual Marxist analysis and Pol Pot was supported by the US.
Cuba is, like the DPRK, under a brutal trade embargo and under constant pressure from thr United States. Despite that, key metrics like Life Expectancy are higher than neighboring Capitalist countries that aren’t closed off from the rest of the world.
The PRC is Socialist, and out of all of these countries is the one I would most like to live in. I am very bullish on the PRC continuing to make great strides in quality of life, and will soon become the de facto world power.
Vietnam is pretty cool, from my understanding. Socialism has been tremendously beneficial to the Vietnamese, and overthrowing French Colonialism was a massive step forward.
I live in the US Empire, and I understand that I live in the most Imperialist country on the planet. I want the Empire to fall, and to work towards more even development and industrialization along cooperative lines.