• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    24 hours ago

    That’s not a particularly useful statement, that’s more nihilism. That kind of rhetoric leads to conclusions like “if everything is flawed, why fix it?” Instead of “how are systems flawed, and how can we overcome them?”

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      23 hours ago

      I definitely never claim to be an optimist. But I didn’t argue that either. I was just commenting on the inherent fallibility of anything created by humans, since we seem to have an annoying habit of thinking that whatever human-created systems we like are somehow endowed with divine purpose and will never fail us. The great invisible hand of the market, and all that.

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      23 hours ago

      Not really nihilistic if it is solely acknowledging the truth. That kind of conclusion is yours and not his. You’re giving up on fixing things.

      Either you are to believe man capable enough at fixing things or not even capable of processing a basic factoid.

      However both can’t be true, if you have to tell someone how to think - then your goal is not the absolute conclusion.

      I feel people will wake up to it, not from the sirens but by the heat and smoke. Much too late, but folks learn from mistakes mainly.

      It just saddens me they have co-opted the message of a great thinker into a simple guide of indentured servitude. While at the same time dismissing the cleansing needed and done.

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        23 hours ago

        I don’t really understand what you’re trying to say, here. Proper analysis of problems is a requirement for understanding how to solve them, but they were saying that all systems are flawed in a manner that depicts all of them as equally flawed, which is bad logic.

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          21 hours ago

          Never was it said equally. Only flawed, is it not true all is flawed?

          Yes their should be more deliberation and you could have done so. However instead you focused on his act of communication, people want change but when times change people cower.

          Let folks speak up and talk with them, rather than critiquing their very act. You are essentially creating an internal dilemma with someone you ultimately agree with in cause.

          It is counteproductive, however simple communications get simple points across. Easy to get but easy to misconstrue. So it is important to contextualize it, which you again could have done, but instead acted upon his manner of action.

          Be what you want from others.

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            21 hours ago

            What was the point of your original comment, then? Your point is just “flaws exist,” which isn’t exactly breaking news.

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              21 hours ago

              You are chastising them for being equally frustrated.

              On a sense of scale we are on an isolated platform on the internet. You are commenting at the wind of another passing voice.

              This isn’t really the place to further your beliefs as everyone basically agrees. Talk and engage with your own thoughts. Not just disapproval, per your own talk of nihilism.

              I agree with you however. Sadly people will not actually take action until the world is amidst another war. Then it will be too late.

              I hate that MAGA and right wing nut jobs have co-opted the bible and christ. Deeply ironic when one is old health guidelines and the other is literally just a dude who gives out free healthcare.