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  • ExploringLiterature@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Numbers.

    Just count until the 30 mins. are up.

    EDIT: Since you have to talk about it pala. Talk about a number and a thing (i.e. 1 ballpen, did you know that my first panda ballpen was blue? Blue is the warmest color, but why is it warm? How do you think it is warm? Then drone on from there. NOTE: People might beat you up for wasting their 30 minutes though.

        • megane-kun@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          I could argue that it’s the other way around. Clickbait titles are conversational hooks used in titles.

          It’s the same effect anyways, used in the same way.

          • ExploringLiterature@lemm.ee
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            1 year ago

            Can’t say I don’t use it sometimes. It works. But if you can’t deliver beyond clickbait, well that’s a total conversation bummer. Oof.

            • megane-kun@lemm.ee
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              1 year ago

              Exactly why people have strong feelings regarding ‘clickbait’, I think.

              I think it’s only ‘bait’ if you (as an article writer or otherwise) cannot support the premise you promised with the hook.

              Like if I can’t subsequently support the premise of “no, actually, one isn’t the loneliest number” then what I said earlier is clickbait.

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                1 year ago

                I agree. It is abused to the point that the relationship between the publication and the readership is damaged. Hence the comments on every buzzfeed post to summarize, or the emergence of TLDRs/TLDWs. However, if an entirely different premise is delivered (think of a good yt clickbait title but actually has a sort of unrelated, but quality content). In short, if clickbait is delivered tastefully (which is ofc relative per viewer), for lack of a better word, kahit malabo sa clickbait, one still engages because what the consumer gets out of the “exchange” is somehow equal or greater to the content proposition promised.

                Appreciate this discussion man. Hope you’re not wet from the rain.

                • megane-kun@lemm.ee
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                  1 year ago

                  Similar sentiments here RE: clickbait. At the end, the question would to answer is: “did it deliver?”

                  Well appreciated too, it’s been a very fruitful one. Also, I’ve been safely inside the comfort of my own room, so I wasn’t even aware of the torrential rains until someone pointed it out. (WFH FTW!)

      • ExploringLiterature@lemm.ee
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        I prefer to let my conversation partner open up, pick their brain, and learn from their experiences. Hell I’m ok with 30 - 70 in their favor sa conversation. There are A LOT of interesting of people out there (as well as, well, terrible ones), and sometimes it takes nailing the right question, learning their right passion, to unlock a potentially memorable (and fun) conversation.

        • megane-kun@lemm.ee
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          Strong law of small numbers though.

          Masyadong konti ang numbers “small enough” (for example, less than 10000) for the available properties and hence small numbers are likely to be interesting.

          I think that’s true whether or not we’re talking in a mathematical sense or not.

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            1 year ago

            I agree with you, and thank you for the TIL

            Strong law of small numbers

            From my light reading of it, linking it conversationally, basically mahirap pag ikaw ung “small” number na nagbubuhat ng convo LMAO at a certain point you simply can’t carry on the conversation.

            EDIT: Formatting

            • megane-kun@lemm.ee
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              Yeah, ultimately, it depends on how much you can support your premise, in this case, “X is an interesting number.”

              And in a lot of cases, you also have to make sure that whatever property you’re talking about is actually interesting to the one you’re having a conversation with (or in case of an article, your target audience).

              Mejo useless if I assert and then go off on talking about why 28 is a perfect number if the person I’m talking to has no interest in the surrounding number theory behind it (lalo na if you just say it out of a sudden).

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                Kinda like forcing a square into a circle. It may be the most beautiful, valuable, awe-inspiring, insert adjective square, but if you’re putting it into a circle, socially it just doesn’t fit in/mesh well. It is something one has to be aware of in any discussion, lest it become hogging all the airtime to yourself because at some point the discussion lost interest. To be fair, human attention is hard to keep. We need to be able to transition well, keep interest in all subjects of discussion, and make it “human” and not feel like a text-to-speech reader lmao.

                • megane-kun@lemm.ee
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                  Agreed! Very much agreed.

                  It is really important for us to be aware of the person we’re talking to (or our audience), which is pretty much, to me at least, the heart of the art of conversation (or writing).

                  Forget the human, and you might as well be talking to the aether.