![dubois-depressed](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/96ae81ce-7e91-4485-bbe0-3c7a2cf4d7f3.png "emoji dubois-depressed") "Are women bourgeois?"
by that logic am I a class traitor
woah
time to go on a podcast and talk about the evil left on hexbear
its our fault you are pro genocide now, we shouldn't have been so rude ![wojak-nooo](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/44f42cb5-b644-4687-a9f4-14557f5c0582.png "emoji wojak-nooo")
You could be right, but I don't care because you're rude about it. ![death-to-the-poor](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/12e36dfe-c3e7-4e27-babd-d84269188e42.png "emoji death-to-the-poor")
not only is it bourgeoise, but it is also homophobic, reactionary, haram, counterrevolutionary, ecocidal, and frankly cheugy as hell
The transition of marriage from a primarily economic union to one that is based in personal companionship is something that I think is actually a very good aspect of modernity.
I'm a high COL area it's often an economic union in large part.
Straight marriage is the union of one man, one woman, and one health insurance policy
🤮 because it's true
It can be, and it often is, but it's not because it is ontologically bourgeois or reactionary, rather it's because hegemonic ideology will grab onto every institution found in human life and ascribe it's values to it, turning it into a normalizing force that self-enforces itself in order to support the power relations that led to it existing in the first place, as is the case of marriage reinforcing the patriarchy and heteronormativity which led to marriage existing in turn.
Gramsci lays out in a great way how hegemony coopts institutions and human life ![gramsci-heh](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0e94449e-4e87-4e87-b144-186119b539b0.png "emoji gramsci-heh")
Do have any beginner reading you'd recommend of Gramsci? I got the first volume of the Prison Notebooks, but it was a bit out of my league.
The prison notebooks are the bulk of his available work. I'd say read one of the "selections from Gramsci's prison notebooks" books.
This is a good starting point! There's also no shame in reading annotated versions, where more accessible authors elaborate on the ideas present in the text. I can't recommend any in English because I've only read Gramsci in Spanish and Italian, but I'm sure there must be good translations of him in English, maybe even by ![pete-eat](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1f8cf49e-5218-42a7-b110-063264f9e2ce.png "emoji pete-eat")'s dad.
Can you recommend some of the Spanish ones?
Sorry, but I can't help you there… My philosophy professor just gave us photocopies of a book he knew was good, and I have no way of tracking those down.
Read my response to dannoffs' comment… I haven't read Gramsci in English, so I can't recommend any annotated versions, but starting with those maybe selected around a single topic (Gramsci tended to go all over the place in the notebooks a bit) could help.
all things and concepts are bourgeois if you can profit from them. case in point, wedding planners. in the people's republic of earth all weddings shall be planned by a chatgpt run by the government.
asking the centrally planned chatgpt to plan my gender reveal explosion
Centrally planned weddings to go with the centrally planned economy.
![stalin-approval](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/7e2f0677-980a-4c31-8dd6-6a6f4f030223.png "emoji stalin-approval")
When two people are under the influence of the most violent, most insane, most delusive, and most transient of passions, they are required to swear that they will remain in that excited, abnormal, and exhausting condition until death do them part. [G.B. Shaw, preface to "Getting Married," 1908]
You must imagine Sisyphus married.
“i hate my wife lmao” the book
Death to America
It is if it's a cottagecore wedding.
well, women are bourgeois, so any wedding containing them is by extension, bourgeois. ![theory-gary](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/4506a36c-5a1b-4258-a5d1-bd7b35e7ee09.png "emoji theory-gary")
is lesbian marriage double bourgeoise
without doubt.
Fellas, is it gay to marry someone of the opposite sex?
fellas is it gay to be straight
Literally yes. Contrast with feudal arranged marriage. Gay marriage is also bourgeois but to less of an extent. It's just an adaptation of bourgeois (straight) marriage for gay couples. Marriage in China is also bourgeois. Cuban marriage is less bourgeois but not truly communist. Thank you for listening to my Ted talk.
This is a bit right
I conducted a representative double blind demographic unbaised survey of some catgirls i found hanging out in Hexbear and they said yes.
This post’s comments are an excellent example of irony poisoning. No offense intended, it’s just the site culture, not anyone’s fault.
What do you mean? I see the majority of the responses to this clearly joke post to actually be thoughtful responses to the question. It's great, because the post is a joke, but only half so in my interpretation, and it gets interesting answers.
What about this is irony poisoning? Thoughtful answers?
Right! I really, really love a lot of the comments on this and they bring fantastic and intriguing points to think about.
The ones that are sincere are difficult to tell apart from the bits
Hmm. I don't find it so, but also, I think I assume all the responses are sincere, regardless of how jokey they are.
If two bisexual people of the opposite sex get married, is it a straight marriage or a gay marriage? ![thinkin-lenin](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/cc7e95a8-2de0-4fcb-823c-db5b7e923093.png "emoji thinkin-lenin")
it has two people of different genders so it's clearly a bisexual marriage
It's a straight marriage with gay attributes
It is a bisexual marriage