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  • GreatWhiteNope [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    I agree that Israel is the one who has the power to stop the war and genocide.

    I do not agree that rape is self defense nor is it necessary for revolution. Are you planning on raping the capitalists if we see a revolution in our lifetime? If not, then I’m sure you can understand that it’s possible not to.

    I am going to disengage from this conversation.

    • BoxedFenders [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      1 year ago

      No, rape is never justified, even in war. However, ugly acts of vengeance are inevitable when the oppressed find themselves with captive members of the oppressor class. They may be unarmed civilians, but they were partying within walking distance of the Gaza border so they were direct beneficiaries of the oppression.

      • Phish [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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        1 year ago

        It's a bit of a quandary as an American. I don't believe violence against me or my family is deserved despite benefiting from American oppression. Though I do understand why somebody would want to commit an act of violence against Americans, and might even call it justified depending on the situation.

    • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      1 year ago

      You are chipping away at the legitimacy of the targets of genocide being able to fight back by pointing out "bad things happen when they do so".

      To answer your question:

      A revolution against capitalists would result in a lot of innocent people dying and having violence visited upon them. That is just a simple observation of reality. If you think that means no revolution would happen, you are merely shifting who the victims in that equation end up being in the end, and allowing the oppressors to continue ruling in the meantime.