• Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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    Let's see. Its full of ads, spyware and the ui is a complete mess.

    I can't imagine why people a digging in there heals

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      1 year ago

      Honestly, I think, like the article says, the hardware issue is the biggest hurdle. People use Facebook, after all, and it is full of ads and its UI is also a complete mess.

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      I am on Windows 11. The UI has been more consistent than 10 ever was and I am curious where the ads are.

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        The 'news' thing in the taskbar counts, I think. As does the recommended apps and preinstalled candy crush. It's looking less and less like a professional tool nowadays.

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          You can hide the news button on the taskbar and I uninstalled all of those extra, pre-installed, bloat apps. My taskbar looks just as clean as it has for the past 20 years.

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            Even a "pro" install on Windows 10 pre-configured via Rufus will try to install fucking Candy Crush. Professional software my ass.

            Ubuntu at least has a very clear "what you need it for" question in its setup, and extended support for older versions for corps. Seems like companies may actually be better off on Linux these days unless you they're using Adobe products.

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              You confuse what I meant. In a professional environment, the images should be customized via deployment toolkit. These things should not be in the image at all. But I'll admit I haven't looked at the windows 11 builds but I used to do windows 10 and earlier. Any bloatware et al is taken out before production deployments.

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        Too many features that I use daily as a Sysadmin are missing to consider w11 as anything more than a PITA currently.

        At home my PC hardware is fully capable but my HDD will need a reformat, so I either rebuild my system from scratch (not gonna happen any time soon) or fork out for yet another HDD and transfer tools.

        So it's an imposed cost for little benefit and a whole mountain of inconvenience.

        I literally disabled my TPM chip to prevent w11 force installing itself. Management forked out for a new fleet of w11 machines and staff are straight up refusing to move off older slower PC's to avoid w11.

        W11 needs a solid 12 months of re-adding existing features to be worth looking sideways at.

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        I hate that I can't have labels in the taskbar. Really slows down my workflow

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        I bought a new laptop that came with 11, I haven't had any super annoying issues… Actually the preinstalled Samsung apps are more annoying than anything OS related… But to be fair, when I was setting it up, I looked into how to do it without connecting to a Microsoft account - it's possible but takes a little work. I wonder if that is the difference…

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          My personal computer is a Windows 11 desktop and I performed a clean install when I got it. So now I don't have any pre-installed apps from the manufacturer. I did use a Microsoft account to sign in, and then just removed or customized whatever I didn't like

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      I mean… Full of Ads seems a bit exaggerating… And I have seen much worse UIs on Linux… The spyware part nothing to say, plenty of telemetry and other stuff so yeah…

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        Full of Ads seems a bit exaggerating…

        One is enough. Especially considering it's a paid product.

        And I have seen much worse UIs on Linux…

        This is like saying "Motorcycles are better, because I've seen some terrible car designs"

        plenty of telemetry and other stuff so yeah…

        So as long as many people do a thing, it makes it ok, ya?

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          Well both are operating systems just putting an example that I have seen plenty worse. And no it is not bad…yeah there is always something that could be better but come on if it was that terrible it wouldn't be used by millions of people everyday without massive issues.

          And for the last point to be clear I was agreeing on the spyware in case it wasn't clear. I wasn't saying that it was ok I was saying that yeah it's true it has plenty so nothing to say on my part.