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“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no water, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant said. “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.”

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    How the fuck do you negotiate with a state that does not beleive Israel should exist?

    The Palestinians brought this on themselves.

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        They support a government that refuses to talk peace. The position of Hamas, in its founding documents, is that the state of Israel should be exterminated. You reap what you sow.

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          But the state of Israel is also trying to "exterminate" Palestinians. Everything from their far right gov't to people chanting "Death to Arabs" on the street.

          It takes two to tango. If Hamas should step down, then Israel should step down at exactly the same moment.

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          Members of Netanyahu's cabinet openly advocate annexation of large parts of the West Bank and have accelerated settlement construction.

          Cutting off food and water for 2.3 million people.

          The irony of Israel recreating the Warsaw ghetto is amazing.

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        For better or worse (and frankly, I take quite a lot of issue with how Israel was founded, looking at you Misters Sykes and Picot), Israel exists now. Most of its population was born there and knows no other home. To suggest that Israel should no longer exist is to endorse the violent elimination of millions of people from their homes, and we've literally just seen what Hamas' method of doing so would look like. Even setting aside ethics, the fact of the matter is that Israel will not let that happen and will do everything in its power to ensure it.

        That said, what absolutely should not continue is any further expansion of Israel into Palestinian lands. West Bank settlements are considered illegal by literally every country in the world and are a deliberate method of ensuring that a Palestinian state is never viable. There is a, now almost entirely implausible, viable solution where Israel withdraws to the 1967 borders, swaps some land in the West Bank to account for East Jerusalem, stops the blockade of Gaza, and allows the creation of a Palestinian state that operates as a close security partner.

        What will never happen is any future where Israel no longer exists, no matter how much it might be argued about where it should have been created or anything else. Practically all nations of the Americas shouldn't exist. Most European nations exist out of random decisions by monarchs. Tons of African and Middle Eastern nations were created by dropping some random lines on a map. This is a rabbit hole that does not end, and anyone who actually cares about finding a peaceful path forward has to accept that Israel exists today.

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        "How can we support colonisation and genocide in this day and age."

        "Israel shouldn’t exist."

        I think the answer was inside yourself the entire time.