Whataboutism only makes sense as a criticism when you use it to justify others, which I don’t think applies to me as I never compared them to anything, I never placed their value to be connected to an external context in a comparison, I only said what they were.

!!! redundant: 7th October was a Hamas attack, though Israel have used this opportunity to spread falsehood about Palestinian resistance, Barbara Pit was a massacre of Croatian Nazi allies, Holodomor was a result of government inefficiency leading to grain shortages and starvation (contention being that it’s disputed if it was intentional or not, I personally doubt it was intentional) and the doctors plot (first I’ve heard of it before now) says that it is debated by historians!!!<

You can’t just shut down discourse by shouting ‘Apologia’ or ‘Whataboutism’

Neither did I deflect nor handwave it, I said it as I thought it was, Hamas attacks did cause civilian casualties although exaggerated by Israel, Yugoslavian freedom fighters did massacre those Croatians and keep it hidden for 60 years and the Holodomor did kill hundreds of thousands

What frustrates me to no end is these topics becoming taboo, and even with Wikipedia accepting that there is discourse, people rejecting it because of Tankies

I am stupid for writing this much when I don’t even need to, but either way their more modern claims and what they support hold more weight than what they think of the past, you could’ve talked about them supporting Assad for example