Elon Musk has until the end of Wednesday to respond to demands from Brussels to remove graphic images and disinformation linked to the violence in Israel from his social network X — or face the full force of Europe's new social media rules.

Thierry Breton, the European Union commissioner who oversees the bloc's Digital Services Act (DSA) rules, wrote to the owner of X, formerly Twitter, to warn Musk of his obligations under the bloc's content rules.

If Musk fails to comply, the EU's rules state X could face fines of up to 6 percent of its revenue for potential wrongdoing. Under the regulations, social media companies are obliged to remove all forms of hate speech, incitement to violence and other gruesome images or propaganda that promote terrorist organizations.

Since Hamas launched its violent attacks on Israel on October 7, X has been flooded with images, videos and hashtags depicting — in graphic detail — how hundreds of Israelis have been murdered or kidnapped. Under X's own policies, such material should also be removed immediately.

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    Getting rid of misinformation is great.

    Getting rid of accurately reported, gruesome images because of a government mandate flies in the face of the core principles of free speech. And it would cause real damage to the world.

    Remember that it was only when the world actually saw images of the Nazi concentration camps that the world actually believed it. They'd heard about it for years, but it was largely ignored.

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      Getting rid of misinformation is great.

      That is the goal. The OP article and especially the headline here is misleading.

      This is what is in the original letter regarding violent images: „repurposed old images of unrelated armed conflicts or military footage that actually originated from video games“.

      The issue is not violent images per se. The issue is misinformation through violent images that are unrelated to the current events.

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        and other gruesome images or propaganda that promote terrorist organizations.

        Seems to me like this is a sly way to remove any videos where Hamas is successful.

        Which is weird, because seeing those videos usually gives more support for Israel.

        This whole law is fucked. Leave freedom of speech alone.

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          Freedom of speech is mostly an American concept. In most European states we „only“ have freedom of expression and opinion (a human right). Deliberately spreading propaganda, agitation and fake news is not covered by freedom of expression and opinion. On the contrary, it can be a criminal offense.

          This is not the first time Musk thinks US laws apply to the whole world or that he is above the law of the countries his businesses operate in. A part of me hopes that he gets fined and then ignores the fine. He might just be stupid enough.

          See? I called him stupid. That is an expression of my opinion. Using images of violence from 2010 and claiming that they are from 2023 is not an opinion.

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            I think he should just take X out of the EU and watch the uproar when EU citizens can't get their fix.

            Would really show who wears the pants in the relationship.

            Using images of violence from 2010 and claiming that they are from 2023 is not an opinion.

            I'm specifically referring to real videos accurately described in my previous comment.

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              EU citizens would grumble a bit, but then just switch over to other services like Treads and Mastodon. Many of our governments already did.

              We aren't loyal to a specific company, we use what is the most convenient and doesn't spit right in our faces.

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                I think the EU would change its rules to appease its citizens who are addicted to X.

                Same reason why the US would never ban tiktok. There would be an uproar of average people who don't pay attention to these things wondering where their fix went.

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                  I think the EU would change its rules to appease its citizens who are addicted to X.

                  It would not. The EU has funded Matrix/Element, Mastodon, even Lemmy has been developed using EU funding.

                  Facebook, 𝕏, Google, and similar US mega corps, can play by the rules or GTFO, the EU has alternatives.

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                    Are you sure?

                    What makes you think that EU citizens would criticize X instead of the EU if X left because it didn't follow EU regulations?

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      I respect that but the images presented to the public were selected to denounce and illustrate horrendous acts commited.

      Here, I'd risk there is a very high risk/probability whatever may be leaked/posted is for pure shock value, with no intention to inform or contextualize.

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        Intent doesn't matter. People should be allowed to document and post crimes committed against humanity

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          The pictures are old and don't relate to what's happening currently.

          Also, what do you think the differences between pre-meditated murder and manslaughter are? Intent absolutely matters.

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          Intent does matter. It is so inportant it is even relevant in courts of law.

          You want the images of the barbarism raging in Israel as we speak to be known to the world and that is a good thing. People need to see the acts being commited there.

          Yet twitter is not, in any way, the platform for it, as those same images are very easily twisted out of context and thrown out in a fashion that will only serve to further entrench extreme positions and used for sheer shock value.

          These are human lives being laid to waste, not a social media circus for browny points.

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          I'm not sure, but I believe this is only for social media sites. You can still document it, but social media isn't the place. I assume you'd be able to link to that, but not to the images directly, but I'm just guessing.

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          Yes, which requires an unbiase position, supplying all possible information.

          Nowadays, and even more when considering twitter, that is hardly the case.

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              Which makes it even worse, I'd risk? If the said pictures are unrelated, why are those being pushed forward? Are we voluntarily trying to dumb ourselves?

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                I should have replied to the person you responded to, you are clearly on the same page I am.

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      You're speaking against the propaganda fueled groupthink, that's a bannable offense.