• KickMe@programming.dev
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    1 year ago

    This timeline starts at about the coldest point in the last 66 million years. Definitely not biased.

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      The point of the graph isn't to show the warming amount its to show how much faster the rate of warming is now compared to previous warming events.

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      I don't see how this is biased. Showing that the Earth did warm up over time before major human climate change started would be, very weakly, supporting that climate change isn't real. If they wanted to be biased they would start at a warm point, and when the Earth is cooling down they'd be like "see! Earth cools naturally, so it must get warm because of climate change!"

      To make my stance crystal clear, I believe in and am deeply concerned by climate change

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          You explained how YOU think it's biased, and you're still wrong. We should be scared shirtless about climate change right now. Instead, you're pointing out incorrectly how this is biased.

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            It is objectively biased for the reason stated. Being intentionally dense about that fact to push a certain narrative is not a good look.

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              Except it isn't biased. It showed how warming slowly happened over a roughly 20,000 year period. Someone even gave you an example of something that would be biased and mislead and you just said no.

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                  1 year ago

                  Always appreciate being personally insulted. Notice, I never called you a moron, or stupid, or anything remotely close. The fact that you resorted to calling me names says more about you than it does me.

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                    1 year ago

                    You know what, you're right. My bad.

                    Now, go tell the same thing to everyone else insulting me in this thread who aren't even trying to provide a counterpoint.

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      1 year ago

      What conclusion would change if the graph started at an earlier, warmer period?

      As far as I know, three crucial things would still hold true:

      • Earth has not been as warm as today since humans existed, in the past 200'000 years. We don't know if we can thrive in these conditions. Chances are, we can't. We're optimized for another climate. We have no precedent wether future Earth is habitable for us.
      • Earth has never warmed this rapidly, never. Speed matters a lot, as lack of time makes the difference between adaption and extinction.
      • Whatever the cause, and however normal it may be, the current development, and rate thereof, causes substantial issues on many fronts.
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      1 year ago

      "My bank funds history chart starts at the lowest point my funds have been since opening the account. Definitely not biased."

      Tell me you're a blithering idiot without telling me.