• Mchugho@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    We basically are getting rid slowly mate. They don't tell you how it takes weeks to see a doctor, or how waiting times for operations are sometimes years.

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      1 year ago

      Weeks to see a doctor is better than not getting to see a doctor. And yes your fascist Tories are working like our fascist Republicans would to get rid of it. But only a true gormles plonker would cheer on Sunak and crew.

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        1 year ago

        If you think MAGA hate immigrants now you will be amazed at how much that would multiply in a free to use health service.

        Real talk though, people love the NHS but I'm not sure it's the best system for outcomes. Nor is the insurance whackery in the US. Mixed systems tend to perform better in terms of cost and health outcomes.

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          1 year ago

          Bigots will always find an excuse to be bigots. That's not a reason to appease them.

          I can absolutely agree that the NHS is not perfect. Getting rid of it would be the exact wrong thing to do however. It absolutely has some issues that need to be addressed. But switching to an insurance only model is not going to address that in any meaningful manner. And I think it's also important to point out that the claims of waiting weeks for a simple appointment are slightly disingenuous. That's only if the NHS is your only option. There are private insurance plans and coverage even over there. Having National Health Care does not preclude having private insurance. Nor does having a private insurance mean that you're not going to be waiting weeks. Currently over here in the land of the free. You have to schedule appointments months out with many practitioners. Unless you're actively bleeding out or close to death. So private insurance is definitely not some Panacea.

          Actually the problems with the nhs aren't inherent to the nhs. To problem with Healthcare and Society in general. With birth rates dropping across the globe. Far more people are retiring, dying Etc than being born. And of that reduced volume being born there's simply not enough of them trained and qualified to be Medical Healthcare practitioners. This was something that was always coming.

          Also would like to point out. In the US at least. We've allowed cocaine and amphetamine addicts set unrealistic standards in the medical profession that drive a lot of people away as well.