• Deuces@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I'm not a socialist by any means (well, I have been called one by republicans…) but I've always hated this argument. The USSR and China are the only two I'm aware of that weren't massively screwed over in their infancy by the US, and/or (usually and) manipulated by the USSR.

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      1 year ago

      Then you shouldn’t go around saying it’s “empirically true” because at best there is no evidence.

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      1 year ago

      The USSR was literally invaded in its infancy by France Britain and the US. Trust me the USSR was getting fucked with by bourgeois dictatorships since the beginning.