• SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Most of the current day border conflicts are related to the past century's British policy, both due to the extent of the British Empire and its little interest in preventing trouble in their way out. You see similar issues with French ex-colonies, but since they weren't as many they don't appear as much in the news. Border conflicts in old Spanish colonies mostly took place during the 19th century, and they've been independent for long enough for their current issues not to have as much to do with Spain anymore. In contrast, there are British people alive today who were kicking around when the victors of WWII decided to split Palestine in half without asking Palestinians for their opinion, and afterwards chose to ignore the ethnic cleansings of Palestinians.

    In any case, you shouldn't take of this personally, unless you actually hold any position of relative power.

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      You see similar issues with French ex-colonies, but since they weren’t as many they don’t appear as much in the news.

      Or people aren't as aware of them. E.g. notably their mandates in Syria and Lebanon after World War 1 where they intentionally stirred divisions on the basis of a theory of wanting to keep it so France as a mediator was needed in order to keep them stable. And then they fucked off and left chaos behind.

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        Fair enough. Also, English speaking people will be relatively less exposed to conversations in French, which should be more oriented towards French colonies than English colonies.

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      Palestinians were in fact asked for their opinion before the UN voted to split it in half…

      There's a shituation very comparable to Palestine happening today in Western Sahara. A former colony of Spain.

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        Palestinians were in fact asked for their opinion before the UN voted to split it in half…

        Do you have a source for this?

        There’s a shituation very comparable to Palestine happening today in Western Sahara. A former colony of Spain.

        Fair enough. Spain had an UN mandate that ordered them to oversee the process of decolonization, and instead they just gave it up to Morocco against the wishes of the Saharawi people themselves. The contemporary attitude of both the US and Spain is disgusting in this issue.

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          If he's referring to what I'm thinking about it was the Arab league that was asked. They said "no" and the UN said "we don't care"

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            I replied to a post that claimed they weren't asked for their opinion. Instead of working with the UN to decide on how the territory should be split they just said "we don't care". It's like refusing to go to your divorce or custody hearing because you think it'll be unfair

            Their plan was to get the neighbouring countries to invade and capture the entire territory

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            So the majority of Palestinians just flat out refused to discuss splitting their country apart, just like it would happen everywhere. The way in which you presented facts is disturbingly misleading.

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              I'm just replying to the statement they were never asked about their opinion. How is that misleading?