Yeah, but at least you're not subsidising it. Besides, surely everyone has a copy of it by now. What are they gonna do, advertise another product for me to find a FOSS alternative for?
Hopefully it's a positive feedback loop situation here. More nebula subscribers-> more revenue -> more creators -> more subscribers. It's good that it's owned and ran by some creators so hopefully they stay true to their cause here.
I actually miss some more letsplayer or tabletop content on nebula.
Because i just compared my yt subscriptions with nebulars creators and i do realy miss the stuff i can just watch when my brain is dead.
Exactly. Premium is basically twice what I'm willing to pay. I've considered going premium multiple times, and have multiple times suffered sticker shock and backed away.
I want ad free YouTube but don't want YouTube music. I don't want to pay for extra shit that I won't be using.
I use Spotify way more than I use YouTube. Spotify does one thing and it does it extremely well.
If Spotify added unlimited free Uber eats delivery tomorrow and bumped up the price to $20 a month, then sure, it'd be a good deal but I wouldn't want any of that.
You see: the difference between us is that you see YouTube Music as an extra. I see the other features as an extra since I only really use YouTube music.
Sure, it sucked about 2 years ago but it has become really good in the last few months.
If you don't use Spotify and use YouTube a lot, YouTube premium is worth it.
They had that in parts of Europe for a year now as a trial. But they are discontinuing it this month, making us choose between ads, and lots of YouTube premium crap we don't want.
I'm not sure about individual plans, but YouTube Premium Family went up to $23 per month. I've been a member since day 1 and they eliminated all grandfathering for me. Spotify is $15 for Duo or $17 for family.
I was in the same boat. Said fuck it, switched to Spotify Duo, now I just use YouTube less.
The only thing that would convince me to switch back would be a sub $5/mo plan to just remove ads. I'll keep Spotify because YouTube Music is still not worth it.
The big thing that convinced me Spotify is better as a music service is that it was able to successfully recommend me a band I like that has only 71 listeners, and is similar to another band I like with 140 listeners. YouTube struggles with even understanding what artists are similar to those two and just plays other stuff I listen to (that's unrelated) on artist radio.
If YouTube premium was $4.99 a month it'd be worth a consideration. But then again adblocking is free and privacy respecting
I'm not gonna pay for a service that harvest and sell my data
So you pay for 0 services then?
Arr!
Chad
Well, we all know it's the free services that don't harvest data.
Yeah, but at least you're not subsidising it. Besides, surely everyone has a copy of it by now. What are they gonna do, advertise another product for me to find a FOSS alternative for?
I agree
If you really want to support the creators without getting your data exploited, this ist the place to go: https://nebula.tv/
Yep. Nebula rules, I wish more creators were in there.
Hopefully it's a positive feedback loop situation here. More nebula subscribers-> more revenue -> more creators -> more subscribers. It's good that it's owned and ran by some creators so hopefully they stay true to their cause here.
I actually miss some more letsplayer or tabletop content on nebula. Because i just compared my yt subscriptions with nebulars creators and i do realy miss the stuff i can just watch when my brain is dead.
Exactly. Premium is basically twice what I'm willing to pay. I've considered going premium multiple times, and have multiple times suffered sticker shock and backed away.
Family plan split 6 ways among friends and family roughly comes out to $5/month
Pfft you think JCDenton has 6 friends and family to split the cost with?
I know folks post on reddit about finding Google Fi family plan groups, maybe there's something similar for google fam groups?
I actually think YouTube premium is worth its price. Spotify is the same price, but you get less.
I want ad free YouTube but don't want YouTube music. I don't want to pay for extra shit that I won't be using.
I use Spotify way more than I use YouTube. Spotify does one thing and it does it extremely well.
If Spotify added unlimited free Uber eats delivery tomorrow and bumped up the price to $20 a month, then sure, it'd be a good deal but I wouldn't want any of that.
You see: the difference between us is that you see YouTube Music as an extra. I see the other features as an extra since I only really use YouTube music.
Sure, it sucked about 2 years ago but it has become really good in the last few months.
If you don't use Spotify and use YouTube a lot, YouTube premium is worth it.
So why don't they split YouTube and YouTube music subs? It can save people like us money
They are somehow already split. I only subscribe to YouTube music.
When you subscribe to YouTube Premium, which is more expensive than the YTM only sub, you also get complete access to YTM included.
They had that in parts of Europe for a year now as a trial. But they are discontinuing it this month, making us choose between ads, and lots of YouTube premium crap we don't want.
I'm not sure about individual plans, but YouTube Premium Family went up to $23 per month. I've been a member since day 1 and they eliminated all grandfathering for me. Spotify is $15 for Duo or $17 for family.
In Germany it's 17,99€ for family
They charge $17 for Music only without including YouTube Premium in the US.
Well that sucks
Qobuz is $11 and that's for high res music…
They're all $11 for an individual plan, I was talking about family plans.
That's not in America
1 not everyone is 2 yes it is
I was in the same boat. Said fuck it, switched to Spotify Duo, now I just use YouTube less.
The only thing that would convince me to switch back would be a sub $5/mo plan to just remove ads. I'll keep Spotify because YouTube Music is still not worth it.
The big thing that convinced me Spotify is better as a music service is that it was able to successfully recommend me a band I like that has only 71 listeners, and is similar to another band I like with 140 listeners. YouTube struggles with even understanding what artists are similar to those two and just plays other stuff I listen to (that's unrelated) on artist radio.
My favorite Spotify plan is $0 with a modded APK. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ