Went to my uncles cabin in the woods for a few days to relax, he’s got the box set of the show and decided to give it a rewatch, was a pretty big fan in college. Got through like 3 episodes and shut it off.
Yes, Whedon is a creepy and maybe knowing that affecting my judgment, but honestly does feel like I’m noticing things my younger brain didn’t. A lot of the dialog seems overwritten, some of the “quirky” shit the characters do comes off more obnoxious than endearing, also the story is giving me weird AnCap vibes. I mean yeah the Alliance clearly is pretty evil but we never get much explanation as to what the Brown Coats political program is, why did they want to succeed? Them being confederate coded sure as shit doesn’t help.
Also, it almost leans TOO much into the whole western asethic sometimes, to the point I find it unbelievable. Okay, sure, humanity hastily colonized some planets and now some have regressed into SciFi Deadwood, I can dig that. But like, people on horses with cowboy hats seems a bit too comic for me.
Idk, just some random observations.
Edit: oh yeah and the intro song fucking sucks. That was something I thought even back when I liked the show.
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not sure if it matters but the movie explains that the reavers are Alliance colonists that got experimented on by the Alliance
I had never thought about Reavers in the context of the western allegory and now it makes complete sense to me why they probably felt the need to address it in the movie
I never got the impression the Reavers were meant as Native Americans. Tbf they barely show up in the original show.
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To be fair, if done well, the plot from the film used as material for more seasons of show could have drawn on the falsehood of the narratives as a major plot arc, rather than just tying up loose ends.
Fucking Christ Joss.
Also why is your name Joss and not Josh? Wtf do you think you’re special?
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right, but that’s the myth pushed by the central planets of the alliance, not the true history of the reavers.
hegemonic discourses do be like that.
I may reluctantly agree with you there except I can’t help wonder if it was a much-later-than-the-show retcon tacked on by the movie.
Besides, would discourse about “savages” on the western frontier be more acceptable if someone wrote that smallpox-infected blankets made them evil that way?
oh come on. literally the movie was made to close a bunch of threads that were opened in the only season, which was cut off.
if you’re going to assume bad faith, go bigger.
just say that Captain Malcolm Reynolds was literally a double secret slaveowner and that the finale of the series after 12 seasons was originally going to be him assaulting his human property on his own private planet for 45 minutes to the tune of Dixie on a loop while shouting “Serenity Now!”
because who can say that isn’t what they had in mind all along??
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No need to blow up at me. I don’t know that much about the show and only speculated and was open to being wrong there.
I’m less interested in exploring it further after your post.
I’m pretty sure I’ve seen people pull this sanctimonious affect on you multiple times. He who fights monsters, etc.
Maybe.
I’m not sure how else to phrase what you call a “sanctimonious affect” when I really don’t want to further discuss it with someone that blew up on me before trying to continue the discussion in the same post.
I’d say you just don’t need to narrate being huffy with them. Express that you are upset and why (as you did) and just leave the announcement that their media sharing attempt failed left unsaid because any reasonable person can figure it out and the conversation is no longer really about that. If they somehow need to ask or are oblivious, then of course there is no begrudging you giving such an account.
At least, that is how I would personally approach the issue since you express uncertainty of how one could.