Went to my uncles cabin in the woods for a few days to relax, he’s got the box set of the show and decided to give it a rewatch, was a pretty big fan in college. Got through like 3 episodes and shut it off.

Yes, Whedon is a creepy and maybe knowing that affecting my judgment, but honestly does feel like I’m noticing things my younger brain didn’t. A lot of the dialog seems overwritten, some of the “quirky” shit the characters do comes off more obnoxious than endearing, also the story is giving me weird AnCap vibes. I mean yeah the Alliance clearly is pretty evil but we never get much explanation as to what the Brown Coats political program is, why did they want to succeed? Them being confederate coded sure as shit doesn’t help.

Also, it almost leans TOO much into the whole western asethic sometimes, to the point I find it unbelievable. Okay, sure, humanity hastily colonized some planets and now some have regressed into SciFi Deadwood, I can dig that. But like, people on horses with cowboy hats seems a bit too comic for me.

Idk, just some random observations.

Edit: oh yeah and the intro song fucking sucks. That was something I thought even back when I liked the show.

    • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      24·
      1 year ago

      trek was very good in the 1990s except for a couple of the movies and some stinker episodes. grading on a curve it was incredibly good in the 1960s although some things are usually lost on modern audiences like the short skirts being a symbol of womens’ liberation at the time or how amazingly progressive the diversity of the cast was. Dr. King famously, among trekkies, convinced Nichelle Nichols not to quit the show.

      enterprise was trash, ruined by production burnout and 9/11. nemesis is worse than the star wars holiday special. the abrams/kurtzman movies are awful and everything that those pieces of shit and their friends touch is awful which is why discovery and picard are like that.

      • Nacarbac [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        11·
        1 year ago

        Watching TOS for the first time just now and (as you say, grading on a curve) I’m greatly enjoying it.

        Even though I frequently disagree completely with the cast, the way that they’re able to discuss alternate philosophies, change their minds through experience, and admit to being unhappy when their solution is imperfect - it shouldn’t come across as refreshing as it does.

        And it’s just fun whenever Spock goes smash and starts crumpling props.

      • marx_mentat [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        5·
        1 year ago

        Oh yeah definitely. I hate Abrams and kurtzman so much I can not properly express my hatred for them in this brief moment. I had mentioned in this thread that strange new worlds reminded me of what I loved about the earlier series and pulled me out of my trek slump, even though it is very far away from being the best star trek. I’m probably just going to watch the old ones and pretend that the new stuff doesn’t exist from now on.