Islam’s understanding of morality is rooted in three foundational blocks : Qur’an, Hadith, and Fiqh. To claim that Islam supports such a heinous act like grape would be a gross misunderstanding of the basics of how Islamic law operates. Here are some common claims levied against Islam, followed by a Fiqh rebuttal.
- Claim #1 : Islam supports Concubinal grape.
Debunking :
Abu Abdullah al-Halimi, in Minhaj fi Shu’ab al-Iman vol 3, pg 267 :
“If a female slave is purchased and she dislikes to be touched, or slept with, then he may not touch her, lie with her, or have intercourse with her unless she agrees.”
- Claim #2 : Islam supports Marital grape.
Debunking :
Imam ash-Shafi’i - Kitab al-Umm, Vol 5, pg 203-205.
“As for intercourse, it is a domain of mutual pleasure, and no one is to be forced into it.”
- Claim #3 : Islam supports statutory grape.
Sub claim 3a) A girl betrothed into marriage by her father to a man, has no way to exit the marriage if she does not want it.
Debunking :
Ibn Abidin : Radd al-Muhtar Vol 6, Chapter on Kitab al-nikah,
“… And if the guardian acts unjustly, ie forces one (into marriage) contrary to marriageability or against her will, then after attaining regulatory maturity, she may approach the judge, who can annul the marriage if deemed unfit…”
Sub claim 3b) A girl without mental maturity can enter into a marriage.
Debunking :
Ibn Ashur, : Tahrir wa Tanwir on Tafsir 4:6
" It is not sufficient for the validity of marriage contract that a girl has only reached puberty. Rather her mental maturity (Rushd) is also required. Therefore it is not permissible for her to marry before she attains mental soundness so that she is capable of bearing the responsibilities of marriage. "
Sub claim 3c) the Qur’an in 65:4 permits marrying pre pubescent girls.
Debunking : Periods are part of Gonadal puberty. However, girls undergo Adrenal puberty first, marked with signs such as underarm hair.
Thus, there is no contradiction. Islam still requires girls to start puberty before they can enter into a marriage contract.
Al- Mughni by Ibn Qudamah :
“reaching puberty is a condition for the validity of the marriage contract, thus, the marriage of a minor who has not reached puberty is not valid”.
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Cannot take self censored content seriously when not enforced by the platform it’s on. Please just use the word rape, it’s a serious word that is not to be trivialized and replaced by a fruit.
Unless it’s a rule on this sub specifically, then I apologize.
Are concubinal grapes similar to Concorde grapes?
Ok, now get the other 90% to follow their own writings. It works really well for Christians as well as we can see in the US with all the compassion shown to the immigrants.
90% aren’t following these commands? How so?
Sources online.
