• Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
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    This “not a democracy, a republic” crap is becoming more and more popular on the right. They’re not even trying to hide the authoritarianism and fascism any more. They’re now openly saying they don’t support democracy.

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      It’s literally “democracy = Democrats” and “a republic = republican” to them, simple as.

      The Democrats should rename themselves the “Freedom Liberty” party just to fuck with em. Take back some of their words.

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        This is great, call it the Patriot Party or something and talk about how government waste has turned “Citizens On Patrol” into a bunch of lazy, freedom-suppressing, union members.

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        We already have the Libertarian party, which is the actual Freedom Liberty party.

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          Libertarians are more interested in simping for our corporate overlords and removing the age of consent.

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            Nope that’s just the common Redditor’s prejudice against the party based on what they read on Reddit.

            I encourage you to read the actual party platform, which has none of what you described in it.

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              Some of us have had actual conversations with “Libertarians” and found them to be pretty much in-line with the comment. Not all of us spent our lives on a website.

              It’s always deregulate-fuck-you-i-got-mine sociopaths. Libertarians are about as realistic and level-headed as Anarchists. It’s great on paper or for a small group but once millions of people are involved the bad actors show up and ruin it for everyone.

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                Again, I refer you to the party platform. That is the only definitive thing that Libertarians as a party stand for.

                Your hearsay is irrelevant to that fact.

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      A republic is a type of democracy. This guy is an idiot. 

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        No, republic just means that the role of head of state isn’t hereditary. Lots of dictatorships are republics, some democracies are as well. The actual political system of the USA is representative democracy (in theory at least).

        The fact that these terms are so muddled in the minds of the average American is completely deliberate, because it makes it so much easier for them to subvert US democracy when people have been told that the US is not one.

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          There are a couple definitions. One I’ve heard most is a republic has a citizen as head of state, which disqualifies both monarchies and military dictatorships. Another is that the head of state is elected or nominated, which disqualifies non-representative systems entirely.

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          republic /rɪˈpʌblɪk/ noun a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.

          from one of those Oxford ones

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            That is why it is technically a republic, but not in practice. The constitution says it is a republic, and they actually have an election for the role of head of state, well “election”, but of course in practice that is not how it works at all.

            The US is also technically a representative democracy, but in practice, well…

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          It’s not just a Republic its a people’s Republic.

          So you know like way better. That’s why they don’t need elections it already says it belongs to the people

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                Sorry you prefer to choose between bad and worse every election over reaching concensus in a constituent meeting and then voting to confirm the candidate in an election, but that doesn’t make the dprk’s system less democratic

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                Racist “believe anything the US says about a state enemy they’ve previously committed genocide on” bootlicker

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                  Two words: Tienanmen square. If you have anything that resembles a defense of that you’re a POS. And you do.

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                    The holocaust

                    The Bengal famine

                    The potato famine

                    WW1

                    WW2

                    The Vietnam war

                    The slave trade

                    Immigrant concentration camps

                    Apartheid/Segregation

                    If you have anything that resembles a defense of that you’re a POS

                    Imagine thinking the June 4th incident -where around 300 people died, slightly less than half of those people being unarmed PLA soldiers- can be used to condemn a system as large as China while every capitalist country has done much, much worse.

                    Hell, say the cultural revolution, say the post-civil-war famine, the way the cpc handled them can reasonably be criticized, and they are, by the current cpc.

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        I think what they’re getting at is that majority does not neccesarily rule in the US. You can have an election where a majority of voters go one way but the electoral college (your representation) goes another.

        Idk why they want to harp on that right now but whatever.