• Blackmist@feddit.uk
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    1 year ago

    Well I’ve done some maths, and I’m pretty sure the IDF can kill the population of Gaza faster than Hamas can kill the population of Israel.

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      1 year ago

      That’s exactly what Hamas wants to see because that’s what gets Israeli to lose international support and prompts Arab nations to invade.

      They don’t give a shit about the Palestinian people.

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        1 year ago

        Not lost them a lot of international support so far, I’ll be honest.

        While they may still be reeling from the loss of Bolivia, the people they do business with on a daily basis have picked their sides and stuck to it.

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        Nobody is going to invade for humanitarian reasons. That only happens for very weak nations that have no international support.

        The government of Israel has amazing international support, first class weaponry, outclassing all of its neighbors militaries by orders of magnitude, and a ambiguous nuclear strike capability.

        They could literally take every one of their oppressed civilians, drop them into a vat of acid, live streaming on the internet indefinitely, and nobody’s going to invade.

        Give countries something to fight over, some material resource, and there will be a war, water, energy, access to trade, but humanitarian philosophies are things few people are willing to die for.

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            1 year ago

            You said That’s exactly what Hamas wants to see because that’s what gets Israeli to lose international support and prompts Arab nations to invade.

            I had assumed your Arab nation invasion was due to the death of Palestinian civilians. In your scenario why are the Arab nations invading?

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              Because from their perspective someone invaded their land and is now vulnerable to getting kicked off it. The only reason Israel exists is because it’s supported by the US and Europe. Take away that support and Israel goes away.

              The intended result for Hamas is for Israel to respond with actions that erode the very support that they depend on for security against invasion from surrounding arab nations that don’t need any new reasons to attack Israel apart from the very existence of Israel in the first place.

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                Even if all external countries cut off military aid, Israel still is sitting on nuclear weapons. It’s unlikely anyone would try to invade them, they don’t want to get nuked.

                But in this scenario over the course of 5 to 10 years, they would be less able to power project beyond their borders. That’s true.

                But let’s not forget the The geographic neighbors, the military peers, are incredibly weak. So Israel becoming weak doesn’t really make their jobs any easier