• derf82@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Exactly. Not having kids covers my any excess from meat and driving easily.

    We’ve been eating meat for millennia, while climate change has only been an issue for a century, yet somehow meat eating is the problem, not the billions of people we have added.

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      1 year ago

      Fossil fuels are the problem, but not eating meat is a juicy, very low hanging fruit.

      There is no other way to prevent that much emissions for basically not changing anything. You will still eat 3 meals a day for a similar price.

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        1 year ago

        There is no other way to prevent that much emissions for basically not changing anything.

        Not having kids prevents far more emissions than not eating meat, and changes my life even less then a diet change.

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          Not having kids prevents far more emissions than not eating meat, and changes my life even less then a diet change.

          Only if you didn’t want to have kids anyways. In which case it should not be counted as a saving.

          If you want to have kids but don’t because of climate, that’s probably tougher to stomach than a slight composition change on your plate.

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            1 year ago

            I’m thinking of changing my life as a change to what’s happening now, not what may happen in the future.

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        1 year ago

        It’s not nothing to me. Eating isn’t a mere chore, I eat because it is enjoyable. Vegan entrees just are not consistently palatable to me. Take away meat and I’m sorry, but my list of reasons to live will dwindle.

        And besides, I’d argue not having kids is an even lower hanging fruit by your reasoning. That even saves money. A lot of money.

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          Take away meat and I’m sorry, but my list of reasons to live will dwindle.

          Seems you haven’t had a good veggie dish yet. I totally get how enjoyable food is central for a happy life, but you don’t enjoy it because it was killed instead of harvested. I’m pretty sure you have a few veggie foods you enjoy, maybe without realizing they don’t contain meat.

          And besides, I’d argue not having kids is an even lower hanging fruit by your reasoning. That even saves money. A lot of money.

          As said in a nearby comment: Only if you didn’t want to have kids anyways. In which case it should not be counted as a saving.

          If you want to have kids but don’t because of climate, that’s probably tougher to stomach than a slight composition change on your plate.

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            Seems you haven’t had a good veggie dish yet. I totally get how enjoyable food is central for a happy life, but you don’t enjoy it because it was killed instead of harvested. I’m pretty sure you have a few veggie foods you enjoy, maybe without realizing they don’t contain meat.

            Or maybe I have different tastes than you.

            I really hate that attitude that because it isn’t much of a sacrifice for you, it isn’t for anyone else. People are different.

            Heck, even if I found your one magical dish, I’m not going to eat it for the rest of my life. Even with meat, I choose variety.

            As said in a nearby comment: Only if you didn’t want to have kids anyways. In which case it should not be counted as a saving.

            If you want to have kids but don’t because of climate, that’s probably tougher to stomach than a slight composition change on your plate.

            Oh, so personal preference suddenly matters? Seems you haven’t found the right hobby yet. I totally get how kids are central for a happy life, but you don’t enjoy them because they are your kids instead of pets. I’m pretty sure you have a few activities you enjoy, maybe without realizing they don’t contain kids.

            See how you sound?

            How about this, you don’t eat meat, I’ll not have kids? We’ll see in 100 years who had a more meaningful impact on climate change.