This is why most bestiality laws (and animal cruelty laws, for that matter) read something like “you can’t fuck or mutilate animals, unless it’s for a farming purpose”.
Well OBVIOUSLY that doesn’t count because flails arms wildly
Getting sexual gratification from an act is not the crime here lol. Is this protestant brainworms or something? If now on starting tomorrow via some magical means, all humans started orgasming after biting into a steak, would it then now suddenly be morally wrong to consume steak?
When did I say any of that, I was just asking for an improvement in arguing methods. Relying on nothing but vulgar ideology does nothing for you. This isn’t a marxist debate, this is some strange superiority complex induced vibes session.
Yes you are correct in the main opinion of veganism, but you have obviously not found the finer details.
The thread was somebody defending insemination of livestock, or at least trying to draw a distinction between bestiality and insemination because it is done to farm them rather than for sexual pleasure. My argument is that your intentions do not matter. Is the harm mitigated because you weren’t horny while doing it? Why is it more important to view the crime through the lens of the perpetrator rather than through the lens of the victim in this scenario? It’s a distinction without a difference.
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Well OBVIOUSLY that doesn’t count because flails arms wildly
i don’t get sexual gratification from my food
Carnists stop misrepresenting our arguments challenge (rating: impossible)
Removed by mod
Carnists are werechuds and vegans are their full moon
you are on the internet, fool, you could be arguing with a 14 year old
also you really missed the opportunity to have the name ‘Bean Brain’
Getting sexual gratification from an act is not the crime here lol. Is this protestant brainworms or something? If now on starting tomorrow via some magical means, all humans started orgasming after biting into a steak, would it then now suddenly be morally wrong to consume steak?
no it’s the common usage of “bestiality.” outside of vegan standard english i guess.
this argument makes no sense at all, it rests upon strange things you proposed happening, and an assumption of the result
find a better argument
Find a better argument other than “Torturing and exploiting animals is okay as long as you’re not horny while doing it”
When did I say any of that, I was just asking for an improvement in arguing methods. Relying on nothing but vulgar ideology does nothing for you. This isn’t a marxist debate, this is some strange superiority complex induced vibes session.
Yes you are correct in the main opinion of veganism, but you have obviously not found the finer details.
The thread was somebody defending insemination of livestock, or at least trying to draw a distinction between bestiality and insemination because it is done to farm them rather than for sexual pleasure. My argument is that your intentions do not matter. Is the harm mitigated because you weren’t horny while doing it? Why is it more important to view the crime through the lens of the perpetrator rather than through the lens of the victim in this scenario? It’s a distinction without a difference.
I don’t see a single person defending that at all, even the banned dude.
So intention means nothing? You have jumped from vulgar ideology to vulgar materialism.
These are extremely online arguments. And using parallels that just don’t match. Again, find an argument worth having.