• LadyStalin [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    if we are going to equate animals and humans in your logic…

    Having sex with an animal is as bad as incest, arguing there is no material reason for being against bestiality would also mean there is no reason against incest as a person who has sexual inclinations.

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      if we are going to equate animals and humans in your logic…

      What? When did I do that? When did I even state any logic at all? I asked someone to explain their logic.

      arguing there is no material reason for being against bestiality

      I didn’t argue anything. I asked someone else to explain the reason that they are against that thing, so that I can better understand their position.

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        What? When did I do that? When did I even state any logic at all? I asked someone to explain their logic.

        Do you not believe that? we are vegans.

        you are now dodging your own logic, interesting

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            okay, perhaps we are both scattered

            so I will answer their question

            it is wrong to perform sexual acts on an animal. Because it is wrong to have sex outside of your zone of sexual interest. Should a fox fuck a porcupine? They eat it so what else is different? Silly logic for vulgar ideology, in my opinion.

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              it is wrong to perform sexual acts on an animal. Because it is wrong to have sex outside of your zone of sexual interest.

              is that why it’s wrong? is it really?

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                Yes! Would you have sexual intercourse with a family member? Why not? They’re a totally able bodied human! You participate in sex, and thats a small step from it.

                No its wrong because it is morally and completely wrong, with various mental and physically ill issues stemming from it.

                Its wrong because you are having sexual intercourse with an animal, which is something against nature and just wrong in literally every way. Its one of the true taboos of humanity, you don’t do it.

                To suggest that going from turkey dinner to fucking turkey is a small step for carnists is the stupidest thing you could say in this. There are a myriad of arguments you can use to pick clean carnism, this session has stuck to one of the stupidest in existence. I swear I thought there were people with more than just vibes based politics here, but this shows that I will have to block a few fools in order to experience the site without crawling through ideological dung.

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                  No its wrong because it is morally and completely wrong, with various mental and physically ill issues stemming from it.

                  Its wrong because you are having sexual intercourse with an animal, which is something against nature and just wrong in literally every way.

                  A vegan can easily give a good explanation as to why it’s wrong: because an animal cannot give informed consent, gains no benefit from it, and may very well be harmed by it. Carnists, of course, fundamentally do not care about the wellbeing of animals or what they consent to (animals don’t consent to being hacked apart and they definitely don’t benefit from it), so all they can do is flail their arms and say “it’s wrong because it’s wrong.”

                  You are flailing and making a fool of yourself because you cannot reconcile your opposition to bestiality with your support for funneling animals into industrial killing chambers.