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InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.net to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago

NYT: "The Tunnels of Gaza. How the subterranean maze below the Gaza Strip works."

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NYT: "The Tunnels of Gaza. How the subterranean maze below the Gaza Strip works."

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archive.today • The Tunnels of Gaza - The New York Times

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  • Crucible [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    It really is fucking 2001 all over again

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      History doesn’t repeat but it does tunnel.

      I can hear convos from the future in my head…

      MSNBC anchor: “Some people are appalled by the loss of life after the Israeli airstrike on the underground tunnel complex that resulted in approximately 700 civilians dying in or near the hospital. Can you show us what happened on the board?”

      Mark “Mac” McStronger, frm. Sub-Commander at MidEast Command: “Sure.” Oops. Fuck. Too conversational. “We always regret the loss of civilian life but as you can see here - the estimated location of the highly fortified bunker was at least 100 feet underground. That being the case…”

      Mark “Mac” McStronger had never been on tv before but due to his acumen and wisdom and by that I mean his strong jawline, relative youth, towering height, and handsomeness - he quickly becomes a network favorite natsec go-to guy. There is much unhappiness among the other natsec guys who have none of those qualities. And by that - I mean the important ones. They don’t even have full heads of hair.

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    The best part about this is it insinuates the bombings of the surface are basically pointless aside from terror.

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      Not just pointless. Actively bad.

      If you wanted to block up those vents you need access to them. If you’ve buried them beneath tonnes of rubble you’re never going to access them and they’re going to function just fine 90% of the time.

      Good luck finding them though. I’m also inclined to believe that it isn’t an interconnected system of tunnels but instead several different groups of tunnels.

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    yep just a totally normal looking city up top, no need to interrogate why there’s a literally underground resistance movement beneath this city

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      I remember this graphic and thought it was so fuckin cool. I used to daydream about badass mountain fortresses

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        Tarn Adams saw this pic and immediately began developing Dwarf Fortress

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          Is this real?

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            I was joking if that’s your question

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              It was :(

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                sadness

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      Literally me on minecraft survival

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    saddam_bunker.jpg

    no wait, taliban_batcave.jpg

    no no wait wait, long_term_nuclear_warning_message.png

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    Can we get Hamas to do subway construction for cheap?

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      The rumors are true? Buttigieg’s secret-but-not-so-secret meeting in Qatar is on?

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    Joining Hamas since they’re the only ones prepared to deal with climate catastrophe:

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      I’m in a Hamas tunnel right now it’s warm as hell we got stoves and like fifty blankets you fuckin loser.

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        This was a Brace tweet, right?

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          Correct. An old one from before he was banned from Twitter and the podcast.

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            Saluting any dunk from the brave troops of the YPG o7

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            wait Brace got banned from the True Anon podcast?

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              Lol, no I’m just saying that tweet was from before the podcast.

        • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          I’m fairly ignorant on most of the origins of site taglines.

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            I was pretty sure he tweeted it out when fighting with the YPG, and yeah lmao:

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              lmao

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              It’s interesting to me that “fighting ISIS” provides validation for so many political projects. It’s consistent across the right and the left. I’m not judging I think it just reflects that I know so little about ISIS.

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              Best poster of all time. So good they had to ban him.

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      Rail transit supremacy strikes again

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      I want my tunnel sheep and I want them now!

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        Call 877-SHEEP-NOW

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      why would they put a powered down fridge in a minecart? are the insinuating they are robbing people topside or something?

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        Hamas are venting into your house and stealing your entire fridge

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          This is why Gaza is starving

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    The West never got over Vietnam lmayo

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      peekaboo

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        kim-jong-il

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    saddam-hussein

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      Beat me to it lmao

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      entrance disguised by bricks and rubble

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    Artist depiction of hamas

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      By Allah, rock and stone!

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      Schematics found on Hamas fighter depict plans to use banned magma weapons.

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        Experts warn that hamas fighters have superior darkvision and can see in total darkness up to 60 feet

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        The recovered schematic:

    • Dessa [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      Israel is hesitant to enter the subterranean Hamas Fortress for fear that they may encounter something Fun

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        Breaking news:

        Hamas reportedly digging all but thin wall against a lava lake in order to create a “fuck the world device”.

        Witnesses have reported hearing rallying cries of “we’re pulling a Boatmurdered, lads.”

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      why doesn’t Hamas simply fill minecarts with magma to render them invisible?

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    65 feet is roughly the height of a 6 floor apartment building.

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      chief imma need that in football fields

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        Best I can do is bald eagle dicks

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]@hexbear.netBanned
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        It’s three first-downs tall.

        • Tony! Toni! Toné! ☑️@lemmy.ml
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          I thought a first down was 10 yards, so isn’t it only two first downs tall?

          • zifnab25 [he/him, any]@hexbear.netBanned
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            Yes.

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            If you include penalties, first downs can be any length between 0 and 100 yards, so technically Hamas could be 2 football fields below the surface, or mere inches.

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      de-encyclopedia

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        It’s more de-visual-calculus

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      But how many 9/11s?

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    Disappointed there wasn’t a prone Saddam thrown in there somewhere.

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      saddam-hussein

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      Joe Biden's ass
                 │Entrance hidden by
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        this is a supine saddam hussein

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        i can hear the fucking castle crashers music

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          the OG angry birds

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    if the 65 feet thing is accurate, thats fucking impressive considering the lack of construction equipment and concrete

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      Palestinians have spiral power like in Gurren Lagann, they used their indomitable revolutionary spirit to be really good at digging tunnels

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        They’ll pierce the Iron Dome heavens with their drill!

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        They must have a lot of revolutionary plasm.

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      Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus,

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    I kinda wish I got hired to draw pictures of cool underground bases

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    A comment at NYT.

    It seems to me, as a retired geophysicist, that they could use seismic sounding techniques to find the tunnels. Secondly, the fact that it is murderously hard to find the tunnels, and root out the terrorists hiding in them/using them, is no excuse to instead bomb apartments, refugee camps, and hospitals above them. There is just no excuse for that, that allows you to retain any moral authority. Instead, you become, as bad as they are.

    I would use seismic wave detection techniques, and gas or otherwise poison them in the tunnels. And overwhelm them with wave after wave of onslaught from all entrance directions that doesn’t kill the people above. Despite the troop losses.

    The fact that the Israeli state believes that they have the sole right to the land of Israel based on their history and faith does not mean that the people who had been living on that land prior to the Israelis pushing them out in the late 40s have any less valid claim. Pushing people off the land they have been living on for years is also known as forced relocation, which is a war crime.

    65 year old woman, former republicans now long term democrat, not religious, and not at all comfortable with my tax dollars supporting the murder of people in Gaza.

    And, obviously, Hamas are terrorists and what they did on 10/7 was horrific - as is the violence and land grabbing by settlers in the West Bank, and what the Israelis did to the Palestinians in the late 40s.

    Neither side has clean hands here - nor do we.

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      She’s that close to simpathize with palestinian resistance, she knows the suffering. How can she not understand the struggle for liberation?

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      Truly incredible moment of liberal fleeting self-awareness here - ‘wait a minute, if the terrorist are all safely secluded in tunnels, why do we have to bomb every building in Gaza?’ Of course it’s immediately followed by ‘let the fascists gas them’

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      oBvIoUsLy HaMaS aRe TeRrOrIsTs

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        I think you have to to say that in America otherwise your neighbours talk to the FBStasi and get you watchlistes

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          Death to terrorists of course, but fuck yeah lets go Hamas, go kick some ass

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      they could use seismic sounding techniques to find the tunnels

      yes, they could do that, but it would take ages to do seismic surveys all over Gaza (it’s a big fucking place!) even in the best of conditions and those surveyors could be captured/killed by Hamas in that time (justifiably, I think, in this situation). Also, finding the exact location of voids is hard even if you know where they are in advance, and when they’re like within 10 feet of the surface. There’s a reason why tunnels continue to be a problem for cross-border smuggling, as well as the odd prison escape, and those tunnels aren’t usually 60 feet underground.

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