The consumption is the point. They just want candy not a meal. They want fucking marvelslop not Cinema.

Inb4 let people enjoy things, the mindset on display is a perfect member of capitalist society. A mindless consumption machine.

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    I just replied to your other post and I did respect the vulnerability you showed. My reply up there was before I read that from you.

    Chronologically, yes, I was upset those minutes ago because you were dodging things you had already said and at the same time were calling me “really stupid” and later on accusing me of “reactionary-tasting anger.”

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      I didnt try to dodge any of it. I acknowledged all of it I could think of and left it up explicitly because I wanted to make sure anything I didn’t leave up was left for people to see when I apologized.

      What are you even talking about? I have no idea what you think I’m dodging. I know you were linking my comment over and over but I just… didn’t respond because I thought I had already covered it with what I said. I know that’s a dumb way to apologize but I mean I’m not really that smart

      I know I should have responded to that individually, at least in retrospect, but my apology was over my general tone and everything. I didn’t know you were angry at me over the three question marks specifically and thought you were just angry about them as an example of the tone I used.

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        I didnt try to dodge any of it.

        I have no idea what you think I’m dodging.

        The difference between insulting people and insulting media is like super clear and conflating the two is really stupid???

        which is people insulting randos over random shit

        reactionary-tasting anger

        This is not “treat defense”.

        There’s a lot more already in this thread if you just scroll up what you’ve already said to me, but insulting me from the start in your very first reply and then dodging that insult while making accusations and presumptions about what I said in the worst possible light makes it hard to generously interpret things at this point.

        I didn’t know you were angry at me over the three question marks specifically

        Being called very stupid from the start was the issue and it got worse when you did rhetorical backflips to simultaneously say you didn’t insult me from the start while continuing to insult me while framing what I said (or presumably, previously said because it’s not even in this thread) in the above quoted ways.

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          it got worse when you did rhetorical backflips to simultaneously say you didn’t insult

          I LITERALLY NEVER DID, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

          If I did this, I didn’t even realize. I know that’s not a great excuse but I legitimately don’t know what you’re even talking about

          And all those things you pointed out, yeah? Those were the things I was apologizing for? Except for the “this is not treat defense” thing which is just me saying that I’m not defending a treat because there isn’t a single consumer item I’m actually defending or even care about relative to this conversation?

          Does “treat defense” mean something other than someone vehemently defending some sort of piece of media? Like does it just mean anyone angry online? I’m not being sarcastic I might legitimately have just misinterpreted what it meant

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            Between this post and the other one you just made:

            WHAT TREAT!??? WHAT TREAT!???

            I HAVE NO CONNECTION TO MARVEL, I’VE SAID THAT SO MANY TIMES?

            WHAT FUCKING TREAT AM I DEFENDING??

            BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THE ONLY “TREAT” IM DEFENDING IS MY OWN FUCKING DESIRE FOR INNOCENT RANDOM PEOPLE NOT TO BE INSULTED AND IF THAT MAKES ME A TREAT DEFENDER THAN IM FUCKING PROUD OF IT

            IF HAVING FUCKING EMPATHY, EVEN FOR RANDOM FUCKERS WHO LIKE SHOWS I HATE, MAKES ME A TREAT DEFENDER, THEN I’LL BE A TREAT DEFENDER AS MUCH AS I FUCKING WANT, AND YOU’LL FUCKING DEAL WITH IT

            I don’t think anything I say after this point is going to help. I’m not changing my position, especially not now. While I still respect what you admitted and showed previously, almost immediately after that you started all-caps demonstrating more of the same hostility you had replied to me with, in this thread, from the start.

            Does “treat defense” mean something other than someone vehemently defending some sort of piece of media?

            I suppose the definition can be expanded to outright reactive hostility toward even the idea or possibility of media criticism and taking it up as a personal cause, as if one is in personal danger if that entertainment product is criticized. Calling me “really stupid” because I posted an edited webcomic you clearly didn’t like and going on and on from there, all because I do believe people should let people not enjoy things (and yes, criticize them).

            You apparently didn’t like that the edit used the term “thought police.” I didn’t make the edit, I just used material on hand. But this exchange so far has in some ways only hardened my position about how unfortunately and excessively defensive some people can get at even the idea of their entertainment getting criticized.