• ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nz
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    1 year ago

    It would be religionist, not racist. Islam is followed by many different races. But I get where you’re coming from. I’m all for getting rid of all the religious symbolism etc.

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      1 year ago

      When the right talk about Islam they aren’t talking about the religion. They have no problem with the Muslims from Kosovo for instance. They are specifically targeting Arabs and Africans.

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        11 months ago

        Kosovars rarely wear hijabs though. Same goes for Bosnians and Albanians and many Lebanese, Egyptian and Syrian Muslims. So not it isnt about race.

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            11 months ago

            No, you were the one brought up Arabs and Africans. You are the one stereotyping Arabs and Africans as the only Muslims who wear headscarves just to further your argument.

            No one here has issues with Arabs or Africans. Headscarves and crosses are just inappropriate for public sector workplaces as they are supposed to be neutral and unbiased in secular societies.

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              11 months ago

              You’re ignoring the context of why I brought it up. Right wingers who complain about religious hair dresses don’t give a shit about someone wearing a cross on their necklace. They know they can’t go after people because of race so they use Islam as a backdoor.

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                11 months ago

                But I am not a right winger. I believe in a secular society, public administration should be religiously neutral and that means no one gets special privileges. Also I have rarely ever seen muslim Africans wear headscarves aside from Somalis. Usually when I think of headscarves, I think of Turks, Chechens or people from the Arabian Peninsula.

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                  11 months ago

                  Religious seculation also means no oppression based on religion. It’s a double edged sword. I’m not saying you are right wing but I am pointing out that right wing demagogues go after Islam. Especially in countries with strong hate speech laws.

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                    11 months ago

                    Certain restrictions in public sector workplaces arent oppression though. Especially the rules apply to everyone. Its just like certain dress codes are in place such as no street shoes, no revealing clothing and no visible tattoos. If people want to wear religious symbols outside of a government job, they are within their own right and I will protect that right. I also support people being allowed to wear religious symbols in private sector jobs as long as they abide by safety codes (there are forms of hijab and sikh head coverings that abide by safety standards for heightened danger workplaces).

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      1 year ago

      I am interested, what exactly constitutes a “religious symbol” for you?