• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 days ago

    Same thing if you ask MSM-poisoned people if they think ethnostates are inherently unjust and dysfunctional without first mentioning that Israel is one.

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      Dang, haven’t played in a while but I guess even My Singing Monsters isn’t safe, that’s discouraging

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      Dude, I’m not sure “ethnostate” isn’t some fucking used-car-lot buzzword like “the spend”, but I know Israel has done a lot of bad shit to everyone around them.

      Maybe account for jargon?

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        I’m not sure “ethnostate” isn’t some fucking used-car-lot buzzword

        Allow me to put you at ease, then: it’s not.

        An ethnostate is a country that enforces by law the supremacy of one ethnicity at the expense of all others.

        Examples other than Israel include Nazi Germany, Apartheid South Africa, most of the former Yugoslavian Republics during the war in the 90s, as well as current day countries such as several Muslim/Arab majority countries, Hungary, Russia, Belarus, and increasingly the US.

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          How is that different from China, Japan, South Korea, or any of countless other countries with a dominant ethnicity and laws that try to preserve it? Heck, I would even call Quebec an ethnostate if it were independent of Canada.

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            the difference is whether the state consisting of mainly one ethnicity is a fact or a goal

            if it’s a fact, well then it’s just how it is but other people could potentially live in this country and have the same possibility, chances, …

            if it’s a goal, however, that means you’re not providing the same chances to everyone, but are discriminating based on ethnicity and treat people differently, which is a problem.

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            I’m not sure what laws those three specific examples have, but they allow foreigners to emigrate there and live there. An ethnostate would be violently opposed to the idea; think Stephen Miller in the US, he literally wants all non whites removed by force.

            Now I’m not expert and it’s possible that those 3 examples do still count. But unlike Israel, with the exception of China, they are not currently right now commiting genocide. So it’s still different, except for China, and people who are paying attention are also mad at China.