• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    That comment did not justify your original comment, which was:

    I don’t think downvotes should be a thing at all tbh. Just silences discussion.

    Someone not responding to your post does not silence discussion. Neither do downvotes. No one, not even you, is entitled to a response. Who sees a downvote and decides that they were going to respond but now won’t? That’s ludicrous.

    So as far as- “Who said anything about not commenting if you’re getting negative votes?,” that would be you, who claimed downvotes silenced discussion.

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      No one is entitled to a response

      Again, did you even read my comment? Pointing out a tendency people have isn’t “entitlement”. People shy away from small numbers and interact with large numbers more.

      Who sees a downvote and decides that they were going to respond but now won’t?

      We literally see this in threads all the time. Negatively voted comments are responded to with one-liners or nothing at all, as if the negative votes somehow prove them wrong.

      Someone not responding to your post does not silence discussion

      Lmao I’ll be “discussing” this topic with my wall now

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        11 months ago

        You again did not explain how anyone is silenced by downvotes. And we do not “literally see this” because you have no idea if those people who downvoted were ever going to respond.

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          11 months ago

          how anyone is silenced by downvotes

          My comment:

          I don’t think downvotes should be a thing at all tbh. Just silences anyone discussion.

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          you have no idea if those people who downvoted were ever going to respond

          That’s not what I said:

          People have a tendency to … dismiss any opinion … with -1 votes or less instead of properly responding to it

          People dismiss it either because it has low visibility since it’s downvoted so people wouldn’t see it, or because of our tendency for big numbers.

          Taking out downvotes would allow for less popular opinions (that do not break rules by being hateful or spam; you’d report it in those cases) to have higher visibility and discussion since the majority can’t just downvote it, just because they slightly disagree with it or are biased against it, and silence discussion.

          People who do agree would also be able to show it through upvotes, and it wouldn’t be eaten by the downvotes.

          Thanks for your comments actually. Got me to think about the benefits more clearly. Discussions are great.

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            11 months ago

            People dismiss it either because it has low visibility since it’s downvoted so people wouldn’t see it, or because of our tendency for big numbers.

            That is absolutely not how Lemmy works. Downvoting has no effect whatsoever. This is not Reddit.

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              11 months ago

              That is absolutely not how Lemmy works. Downvoting has no effect whatsoever.

              I assume you’re talking about the ‘active’ and ‘hot’ sorting?

              From the Lemmy docs:

              • Active uses the post votes, and latest comment time (limited to two days).
              • Hot uses the post votes, and the post published time.

              You’d also notice this if you use Lemmy for any length of time lmao

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                11 months ago

                You know what’s weird? What’s weird is that, despite your claim that people aren’t having discussions with people who get downvoted, my reply to you was part of a huge amount of discussion with someone who was downvoted. And that is true of multiple other discussions in this post.

                Is this post special? Is it the exception?

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                  11 months ago

                  Is this post special? Is it the exception?

                  I am the exception because I keep the less visibility thing in mind

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                    11 months ago

                    That does not explain why this post contradicts your claim multiple times, but your massive ego is noted.