“The resolution suggests that all anti-Zionism—it states—is antisemitism. That’s either intellectually disingenuous or just factually wrong,” said New York Representative Jerry Nadler, who voted present. “The authors if they were at all familiar with Jewish history & culture should know about Jewish anti-Zionism that was and is expressly not antisemitic. This resolution ignores the fact that even today, certain Orthodox Hasidic Jewish communities … have held views that are at odds with the modern Zionist conception.”

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    Last I checked, Afghanistan is still a country

    And Palestine will still exist when the white supremacist settler-colonialist state squatting on it is dismantled. You know… Palestine? That place that has been home to Jewish people since before Jesus?

    So, again, Clyde - do have something other than white supremacism apologetics to offer?

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      You’ve lost me. How is Palestine analogous to Palestine? The Israeli leadership will literally die before they cede control of the nation to the Palestinian Authority.

      I don’t know who the fuck Clyde is, or why you seem to think anything I’ve said is white supremacy, but it makes me doubt your grasp on reality and wonder if I’m wasting my time on you.

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        You’ve lost me.

        No, Clyde - I didn’t. You were lost a long time ago, and it has nothing to do with me.

        or why you seem to think anything I’ve said is white supremacy

        It’s really simple - if you engage in apologetics for a white supremacist settler-colonialist state that makes you a… what?

        It’s about as simple as political math gets, Clyde.

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          Well if you’re just going to make shit up, I think we’re done. I’ll let Clyde know you’re looking to argue with him, if I ever meet him.

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            Are you going to pretend that your apologetics for a white supremacist settler-colonialist state is (somehow) made up now?

            Don’t run off, Clyde… your ducking and diving is becoming amusing.

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              Seems like one of us is pretending, but feel free to point to any apologetics. Check my history. Check reddit, I had the same username for like 10 years. Find anything even remotely supportive of white supremacy, and I’ll stay.

              Or you could apologize for the false accusations, but I doubt you have the capacity to admit a mistake.

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                This you, apologist?

                How do you get rid of Israel without killing a lot of Jewish people?

                Gee… I wonder what the correct term would be for someone who peddles apologetics for a white supremacist settler-colonialist state?

                Don’t help me… it’s on the tip of my tongue.

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                  How is that apologetics? There’s a fucking war, and Israel is currently engaged in a genocide against Palestinians, and Hamas is using their deaths to fundraise for their next terrorist attack. How do you end the ethno-state without violence? I don’t know how we get there.

                  Why am I even bothering with you. You’re clearly more interested in labeling me to feel superior than you are in being honest about the problem.

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                    Israel is currently engaged in a genocide against Palestinians

                    Oh, you’ve only noticed that now - thanks to Hamas’ attack, eh? What did you think Israel has been doing since 1949, Clyde?

                    their next terrorist attack.

                    Do tell… what differentiates you from the people who labelled the ANC “terrorists” back in the 80s? Or the people who labelled the Viet Cong “terrorists” back in the 70s? Or the people who labelled Jim Brown a “terrorist” back when the Antebellum South was still a thing?

                    Sorry, Clyde - but it’s a loaded question. We both know the answer to that one.