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Why does the streetcar not simply eat the smaller weaker streetcar?
It should be the norm, but in reality the tram/trolley/streetcar is going to end up damaged, and people it carries injured. Besides, it would be to beg for a lawsuit.
someone in other post about tesla parked in wrong lane, told me “Woah now, are we sure killing somebody is the right call here? It’s only illegal parking after all.” When I said call the police!
Bro, if you don’t know where to park, don’t fucking drive!!! Where I live, we have tons of idiots like these, blocking sidewalks and transit, so we fucking call the police!!!It was a joke about police brutality.
Wooosh!
literally the one and only thing they’re good for, make em do something for their $ that day instead of sleeping in their car somewhere
Where I am from, the transportation company will call Taxis to get the people to their destination station in case a car blocks the tramline, until the car has been towed. The car owner has to pay the Taxi invoices.
Netherlands?
Germany. I found an article about a case where the parking offender tried to appeal the penalty (translated):
The taxis picked up passengers waiting at the stops and drove them to other stops along the route. This went on for an hour, then the car parked not far from a sign saying “Please keep a sufficient distance from the tracks” was towed away and the route was clear again. This interactive view on Google Street View shows the location.
When the VGF then demanded €973.13, €25 of this was a flat-rate fee for expenses – and the rest was the cost of the rail replacement taxis. After hearing witness statements, the court ruled out any manipulation by the taxi industry, and the court also found no evidence of any delay in towing the car.
I love this way of dealing with such a situation!
It both helps the passengers (who will still be later than without inconsiderate car parking) and teaches a lesson.
Best way to make sure there’s no weaseling out of the responsibility is to tow the car and only fork it out after an advance payment to cover the taxi costs has been made.
The driver (who maybe wasn’t the owner) has no money? Make it the owner’s problem!Its actually terrible. That just means if you’re rich enough you can ruin people day with no consequences…
I don’t know how to tell you…
…but that’s how the current world works in most parts.
And delayed transport is at the lower end on the scale of life ruining events.
Do I really need to bring up Epstein and the orchestrated abuse and worse?
Set it on fire. The SwastiKKKar, not the streetcar.
Here in KC they’ve started fining heavily for people who block the rails.
Me? I’d rather they put a cowcatcher on the front and destroy the cars instead.
In Melbourne (Australia), they removed the cow catchers, but not the aggression. You get one, maybe two courtesy bell rings before you get punted.
Why not both? License plate reader that send automatic fine ( like speed camera ) and a cowcatcher that desteoy it after also the car owner should pay for the removing of what left of the car after
Car rolls onto the sidewalk. Crushes a pedestrian.
Car had a baby in it. Baby dies.
Car belongs to beloved old man neighbor. Whole city now hates the train and gets it removed.
This suggestion keeps coming up, and it never gets less juvenile. The solution is simple - aggressively fine these people. Scale the fine based on income. If it sits there for more than a minute, call a tow truck to move it like an adult. And then install a knee high concrete barrier around the tracks to stop cars from getting there in the first place.
barriers on the road are not good. Pedestrians cant cross anymore, making the city less walkable. Emergency vehicles sometimes use the tram lane to overtake jams. Now they would get stuck in traffik. And in case of an accident a concrete barrier may make things worse.
If police cars can ram other vehicles, so can streetcars. The strawman nonsense you posted isn’t a consideration for high-speed pit maneuvers by the former, and it would be even less relevant for gentle nudges by the latter.
Idk these are flatly not comparable situations. A high speed chase ending in a pit maneuver is EXTREMELY dangerous before, during, after, and even around without being touched. A streetcar pushing a parked vehicle a handful of feet at low speed while ringing a warning bell with a driver keeping an eye on the situation is MUCH safer.
So you’re saying you like cops?
If someone leaves their baby in a car and parks it on the tracks, then it’s their fucking fault if the baby dies. The parent/owner of the car should be charged with negligent infanticide in that case.
Also, no one who owns a tesla is “beloved.”
Sure, but do you wanna be the driver that now has to deal with having killed a baby?
The tram operator wouldn’t even see that there’s a baby inside.
The owner of the vehicle could petition the city’s transportation authority and say “your tram killed my baby!” But as soon as the authority sees the details of the situation they should say “You parked a car on the tracks and left your baby in it?!? Dumbass.” And stamp “DENIED” in big red letters.
Even if that person contacts a journalist, the headline should read “Dumbass tesla owner parks car on tracks and leaves baby inside. Baby dies.”
There’s no reason why the tram operator should ever have to find out there was a baby involved.
The tram operator would 100% find out. News exists. To argue otherwise it’s just unreasonable.
News exists.
Oh really? I hadn’t considered that when I mentioned what journalists should do in this case…
How does “what journalists should do” come into play in other situations? Journalists should also exclude shooters names and images from reporting, how does that go?
You’re going to all this trouble to explain how we can deal with killing a baby, without realizing the better option is to just not kill it in the first place.
I don’t think there’s any point continuing this discussion.
Yeah fick that baby. Fancy being left alone in a Tesla, useless child.
I didn’t say the baby is useless, I said it’s the parent/owner of the car who’s responsible. The tram driver isn’t even gonna know there’s a baby inside.
With a bloodthirsty absolutist mentality like that, have you considered a career in ICE?
It’s not bloodthirsty nor absolutist.
If a tram sees a car negligently parked on the tracks, it should plow through it. The tram operator isn’t going to see if there’s a baby inside. Whoever parked the car on the tracks and left the baby inside is responsible for their own negligence, and also a psychopath.
Explain why the baby deserves to die because of their negligent parent.
Regardless of who we assign blame to, the important part is that if a train flips a car off its tracks, a baby in that car could die. So if we prioritize baby non-death, we can say that the train shouldnt be violently flipping cars off its tracks
I didn’t say they deserve to die. I only said their death is the parent’s responsibility for leaving them in a car parked on the tracks.
If a parent leaves a baby in the woods, no one would be arguing about “maybe bears shouldn’t eat babies!” They would be saying “Maybe you shouldn’t leave your baby unattended in the woods!”
Leave a baby in the woods, it dies. Leave a baby on the train tracks, it dies. In both cases, it’s the negligent parent’s fault. Not the bear’s or the train’s.
Your concept of right and wrong is clearly detached from reality
Cops have done all that shit, thousands of times, and no ones ripped them out by the roots.
The solution is simple - aggressively fine these people. Scale the fine based on income. If it sits there for more than a minute, call a tow truck to move it like an adult.
They give them fines and might get the car towed, but most places they fail to make the fine an actual punishment if you are wealthy: fines should be based on income and wealth.
so you like cops?
The punishment should be determined based on exactly when they purchased their teslar. /s
Has the driver been made famous yet?
Fucking plow through it!
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
And risk damaging the streetcar?
Even if you try to force the vehicle owner to pay, there’s no guarantee they will. Not to mention the non zero chance of causing a breakdown of the streetcar.
There’s also the small chance the vehicle isn’t just parked there, but something happened.
Honestly you’re just better off calling a tow or something.
Even if you try to force the vehicle owner to pay, there’s no guarantee they will.
And they won’t drive until they pay up, it’s as simple as that.
they should have cowcatchers, asshole drivers pay for any damages caused to the cowcatchers.
And risk damaging the streetcar?
I imagine if a kampfwagen gets bumped by just about anything, the biggest hazard would be random stainless steel and plastic litter all over the street.
There’s also a non-zero chance it will just go critical and set itself ablaze. XD
Car should be towed and the owner should pay a fine of 1% of their income+wealth, stocks and bonuses included.
Raise that to 5% minimum
That’s way too hard to calculate
Just make it a percentage make value of the car.
Though, considering I had a car that I bought for a carton of beer (the fuel in the car was probably worth more than the beer), you might want to say a minimum.
That car was amazing. A Suzuki baleno for those who are aware, key had snapped off in the lock so the car didn’t lock, started the car with a bottle opener and I could take it anyway
It’s a cybertruck in the snow, at this point it must be mostly rust, you try to tow it it’ll just break apart.
You could use the value of the car as a base. Untill if the car is worth nothing then tow its annoying but so id waiting for someone to come back from whatever. but if it’s a cybertruck tow it then 1% if new would be $1000 plus lot, tow and admin fees.
You know, I don’t think I’ve seen this variant of the trolley problem before
It’s often a Toronto exclusive, where walking is usually faster than taking the streetcar.
So you cant kill anyone with the lever?! no fun.
The tram should just ram it and bill the owner for damages.
But it’s a Cybertruck. So it will instantly break if touched, leaving even more insanely sharp edges…
They should add nudge bars. Damage the car, leave the tram unscathed.
This happens every fucking winter and not just with these trash cans but all cars. In most of our streets the streetcars don’t have a dedicated and separated lane (or signal priority), making them pretty much just worse buses that stop in the middle of the street, making you cross a car lane on the way to the sidewalk.
What does a Cybertruck weigh? I wanted those guys to tip it onto the sidewalk. Could 8 passengers turtle that thing?
I think they’re like 6,500 Lbs.
And most of the weight is close to axle height because it’s largely from the battery pack under the vehicle.
You roll up in that situation… you tomato sauce that bitch 100 percent.
