• heatiskillingme@kbin.social
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    10 months ago

    My experience is exactly the same. I find people way more toxic here, and way more extreme discussions. I still reddit more on my PC, RES makes reddit worthwhile, and I’m unsubbed to most of the very popular subreddits, so my feed is mostly tailored to my hobbies and interests, which don’t seem to be either very active here, or don’t exist yet.

    Since I don’t reddit on my phone anymore cause I can’t use RIF, I use kbin. But it’s rather lackluster to me.

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      10 months ago

      Odd, my experience is the opposite. Everyone here is chill and I rarely get flooded with downvotes. I’ve only had one asshole in my replies.

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          10 months ago

          That hints me that what people here is calling “toxic” is politics-related, since I’m a lemmy.ml user and I certainly would not say that my experience here is overall “toxic”.

          And, funnily enough, most of the issues that I had were with users from either lemmy.world or sh.itjust.works; sometimes lemm.ee.

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            10 months ago

            A lot of it politics related in that someone posts something even slightly critical of communism and a ton of people dogpile on them.

            There may be toxic 1v1 conversations, but I generally see dogpiling only from one side.

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              10 months ago

              Got it - mostly politics, then. That explains a lot why you guys are seeing far more toxicity than I do, I don’t generally join political discussions. (And when I do, since I’m myself communist, perhaps I don’t even notice it.)

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                10 months ago

                Yeah. If you don’t participate in the discussions and you aren’t likely to get targeted if you do, you probably won’t see it.

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      10 months ago

      Yeah I think it’s because there’s so much less engagement here than on Reddit. The same toxic people would have been buried or down voted to hell over there, but here with far far fewer comments those toxic trolls will remain visible and take up a disproportionate amount of any comments section.

      There’s also a selection bias thing going on, people who would get shadow banned or downvoted on Reddit find that they get engagement with their content here so stick around, the people who they put off will leave, which causes the toxicity ratio to go up and eventually the place will end up full of toxic commenters and posters. With a federated system this is an incredibly difficult problem to solve.

      There’s some interesting musings on how this can affect the development of online spaces here which has stuck with me since I read it. https://eev.ee/blog/2016/07/22/on-a-technicality/

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        10 months ago

        Man that blog post nails it I think. Lemmy is probably not going to grow much at all because yeah, all the normal people are chased away

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        10 months ago

        You also have a few things Reddit did or could do that you can’t really do on Lemmy. You also have, with a few exceptions, a rather new moderation team on Lemmy without the years of experience that some Reddit moderators had.

        Outside of the mass defederation of any Nazi instances, Lemmy has been a lot weaker on overall moderation.

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      10 months ago

      On lemmy, I’ve literally been told that I should be tortured and nuked because I was born in the US, and then got banned for defending myself.

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      10 months ago

      Yeah I find it incredibly toxic here. Stray from the echo chamber and you’re going to get a bad reaction probably. I’m way more prone to leaving a comment on reddit than here. Honestly the inbox notification on lemmy gives me a little anxiety.