Ever since the 2024 election, Democrats have been searching for answers as to what went so wrong to possibly have re-installed Donald Trump as president.

And for much of that time, there’s been anticipation about an “autopsy” from the Democratic National Committee that drilled down on that precise question.

Except that autopsy never actually arrived. And eventually DNC Chairman Ken Martin said he wouldn’t release it.

But now Martin is reversing course and releasing an incomplete version of the document, after an outcry from some in the party.

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    • Biden didn’t help
    • Too much focus on marginalized communities and not the middle class
    • Didn’t offer anything other than “Not Trump”
    • Didn’t hold a legit primary
    • No mention of Palestine
    • No mention of impacts of latent racism or misogyny when running a black female candidate.
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    A reminder that rather than the autopsy showing things the DNC doesn’t want to acknowledge, there is an equal chance that the responsibility for the report was given to an unqualified croney and the autopsy they spent millions of dollars on is effectively worthless.

    Edit: They released it, I was spot-fucking-on

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    This report is deeply flawed and embarrassing in its lack of data and depth. However, it needed to be released when the DNC said it would be. A simple majority of Americans trust Democrats less than Republicans, and the sudden reversal around its release widened the gulf.

    Even now, what was released is incomplete and has annotations that indicate DNC denial of even its most plausible claims. This against the backdrop of Trump’s Epstein files release, which was also delayed, incomplete, and accompanied with denials. The Dems made a fuss about that (characteristically toothless, but a fuss), but then did the same with one of their own reports months later. It’s a ridiculous, unprovoked self-own that lowers the DNC’s already guttered credibility at a critical moment.

    All that said, the report itself is worthless because it refuses to acknowledge the elephants in the room:

    1. The RNC and DNC are paid from the same pockets. The DNC refuses to even acknowledge this to itself, let alone propose any policy or reforms that endanger donations from corporations and the mega wealthy. This leads to over-focus on wedge issues, and the Republicans are experts in creating and exploiting divisions.

    2. Refusal to address Israel in any meaningful way. I am not optimistic that either party will break from Israel. They are pouring billions into military contracts and buying lawmakers hand over fist. US military bases in Israel are seen as critical to its Middle East strategy. However, the failure to even establish a line in the sand that a Harris administration would not cross increased the feeling that there was no difference between the two parties on policy, just personality.

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      Israel got much more aggressive in the whole region after Trump took power so I’d disagree that there isn’t a difference in the two parties.

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        I’m not saying that there isn’t a difference, just that the Dems didn’t adequately make a case that there would be a difference. I don’t see Israel going total annihilation in Gaza without the moral and material support of the Trump administration. That was the Dems point to make, and they didn’t make it.

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          Harris says will end Gaza war in final election appeal to Arab Americans.

          In her closing pitch for the presidency of the United States, Democrat aspirant Kamala Harris has promised to end the war in Gaza.

          Campaigning in the swing state of Michigan, home to many Arab Americans, Harris, 60, on Sunday tried to reach voters disgruntled by the ongoing genocide, which has killed more than 43,000 Palestinians and displaced almost the entire 2.3 million residents of Gaza.

          Sounds like they did though.

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            I said that they didn’t adequately make the case, not that they never said anything. This is one campaign rally, in November. Before this, Harris’s responses were much more typical of Dems of the time: Israel was attacked, Israel has the right to defend itself, but killing Palestinians bad.

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            She lied . She claimed that Hamas was the reason there is no cease fire but it was Israel who blocked it.

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        Bullshit. Israel is more agressive because the whole world is coward. Fuck the usa, russia, china , canada and europe for doing nothibg and even buy and sell weapons from israel

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    A lot of angry talking heads will be hating this report because a lot of it is true.

    The ones who will be most vocal are those who typically focus on single issues and finds this doc doesn’t directly help their narrative.

    Well guess what folks, the average U.S. voter isn’t a single issue voter, they do care about self interests and are not looking to solve all the worlds problems.

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    I’ve seen many statements over the years calling the DNC leadership incompetent and bought.

    Honestly until now I haven’t been interested enough to look into them.

    But even I can see the blatant, out of touch jackassery amid the facts around this autopsy report. If this were any other major organization I think it would be gutted and started anew.

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    It’s not a good look for the party that is harping on the Epstein files to be reluctantly releasing redacted documents in responsive to widespread outrage.

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    1. Democrats were stupid in running a senile man until a few months to go before election.
    2. Kamala Harris is dumb. She said that she would do nothing different from Biden despite knowing the Republican strategy to associate her with Biden.
    3. Harris chose Tim Walz as her running mate, an old man. He lost the debate to the younger JD Vance, a Marine veteran.
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    Why release it they did nothing wrong its the voters who failed to elect her we should be ashamed