That’s whataboutism. I get your hatred for the US. I feel the same. Fuck 'em. But just bc the US and Israel are evil, we shouldn’t suddenly start praising the Russian fascists.
Nobody’s praising anyone, you’re jumping to conclusions. If you’d have a good understanding on why you hate the US, you’d focus more on their proxy war in Ukraine to weaken and take out Russia in order to encircle China. It’s not that complicated. That doesn’t mean, that anyone argues in favor of Russia, that’s a dishonest take. I implore you to focus on the actual problem in this world and work from there.
The US National Security Strategy (2022) says its top priority is “out-competing China and Constraining Russia” and that a key goal is that “Russia’s conventional military will have been weakened” (p.23, p.26).
A 2024 Foreign Policy analysis from a RAND expert explicitly calls Ukraine “a widening proxy war” with East Asian powers competing on the global stage.
By now, the US National Security Strategry (2026) shifts to “prioritize deterring China” and says NATO allies should take “primary responsibility for Europe’s conventional defense” (p.10, p.11).
The US wants to weaken Russia so Europe can handle it by their own, freeing the US to focus on China. Wild stuff!
The U.S. isn’t directly attacking Palestine, and what it’s done in Iran, while terrible, isn’t genocide. That said, yes the U.S. should face consequences for supporting Isreal as it commits genocide, and for attacking Iran, amongst other things.
The president posted on his own social media, that a civilization will die tonight, and that he’s going to bomb Iran back to the stone age, where they belong. Then he carpet bombed heavily populated civilian centers. That’s the definition of genocide, bud. He’s attacked water treatment facilities, hotels, school, hospitals, etc. I think it’s pretty obvious that your hesitant to call it a genocide, when in reality, it’s fairly obvious.
I am hesitant to call it genocide only because there’s no intent to remove the population - it’s to gain power and access to commerce. It’s certainly war crimes and disgusting. I just think we need to stick to some meaning of genocide - not just blur it in with war crimes, murder, crimes against humanity, etc.
I reiterate: >The president posted on his own social media, that a civilization will die tonight, and that he’s going to bomb Iran back to the stone age, where they belong.
This is a clear establishment of intent. He has the ability to act on this intent, and then acted upon this intent.
I know the organs of international justice are slow, and also tilted in the West’s favor, but come on, man. Open your fuckin’ eyes.
Yes. But just saying something like that isn’t the same as doing it. And as I recall when the orange moron said that he backed down and did nothing that night. Maybe I’m just excusing Trump as he’s such a fucking moron and I don’t believe anything he says. He should be drawn and quartered for making such statements as the potus. It’s just that those statements don’t align with the actions by the U.S. so it doesn’t really seem like it is a genocide at this point. But I get your point.
Wikipedia, which I’m not a huge fan of these days, but I’m sure you respect, claims that there are 3,636 deaths in Iran due to strikes, including 1,701 civilians, 1,221 military personnel.. I dunno about you, but when a country says they’re going to do a genocide, and then they kill more civilians than soldiers, starting with a little girls school, I tend to assume that yes, they are in fact doing a genocide.
Nah, Russia can go fuck itself. Get out of Ukraine or die.
So every other country in the world is justified in comandeering American vessels, because its doing a genocide in Iran and Palestine, right?
That’s whataboutism. I get your hatred for the US. I feel the same. Fuck 'em. But just bc the US and Israel are evil, we shouldn’t suddenly start praising the Russian fascists.
Nobody’s praising anyone, you’re jumping to conclusions. If you’d have a good understanding on why you hate the US, you’d focus more on their proxy war in Ukraine to weaken and take out Russia in order to encircle China. It’s not that complicated. That doesn’t mean, that anyone argues in favor of Russia, that’s a dishonest take. I implore you to focus on the actual problem in this world and work from there.
Sooo
Russia attacks Ukrain and the US somehow tries to encircle China? Who is jumping to conclusions now?
You do realize they could just leave? Right?
Obviously the US is happy to fight against and damage Russia whenever they get the chance. But jumping to China in this case is wild.
The US National Security Strategy (2022) says its top priority is “out-competing China and Constraining Russia” and that a key goal is that “Russia’s conventional military will have been weakened” (p.23, p.26).
A 2024 Foreign Policy analysis from a RAND expert explicitly calls Ukraine “a widening proxy war” with East Asian powers competing on the global stage.
By now, the US National Security Strategry (2026) shifts to “prioritize deterring China” and says NATO allies should take “primary responsibility for Europe’s conventional defense” (p.10, p.11).
The US wants to weaken Russia so Europe can handle it by their own, freeing the US to focus on China. Wild stuff!
Sometimes whataboutism can help to illuminate hypocrisy.
Even though that’s Israel technically, I’d still say yes. The US is propping them up enough that they are liable.
The U.S. isn’t directly attacking Palestine, and what it’s done in Iran, while terrible, isn’t genocide. That said, yes the U.S. should face consequences for supporting Isreal as it commits genocide, and for attacking Iran, amongst other things.
The president posted on his own social media, that a civilization will die tonight, and that he’s going to bomb Iran back to the stone age, where they belong. Then he carpet bombed heavily populated civilian centers. That’s the definition of genocide, bud. He’s attacked water treatment facilities, hotels, school, hospitals, etc. I think it’s pretty obvious that your hesitant to call it a genocide, when in reality, it’s fairly obvious.
I am hesitant to call it genocide only because there’s no intent to remove the population - it’s to gain power and access to commerce. It’s certainly war crimes and disgusting. I just think we need to stick to some meaning of genocide - not just blur it in with war crimes, murder, crimes against humanity, etc.
I reiterate: >The president posted on his own social media, that a civilization will die tonight, and that he’s going to bomb Iran back to the stone age, where they belong.
This is a clear establishment of intent. He has the ability to act on this intent, and then acted upon this intent.
I know the organs of international justice are slow, and also tilted in the West’s favor, but come on, man. Open your fuckin’ eyes.
Yes. But just saying something like that isn’t the same as doing it. And as I recall when the orange moron said that he backed down and did nothing that night. Maybe I’m just excusing Trump as he’s such a fucking moron and I don’t believe anything he says. He should be drawn and quartered for making such statements as the potus. It’s just that those statements don’t align with the actions by the U.S. so it doesn’t really seem like it is a genocide at this point. But I get your point.
Wikipedia, which I’m not a huge fan of these days, but I’m sure you respect, claims that there are 3,636 deaths in Iran due to strikes, including 1,701 civilians, 1,221 military personnel.. I dunno about you, but when a country says they’re going to do a genocide, and then they kill more civilians than soldiers, starting with a little girls school, I tend to assume that yes, they are in fact doing a genocide.